Who
the hell is Mr Barry McArthur?
From:
Cameron Lamond [clamond31@yahoo.com]
Did anyone else catch the
article on page 2 of The Sunday Herald Sun (14/11/99)?
A teacher and "Kelly Historian" ...
Mr Barry McAuthur, claims that 'Ned did a runner
and Dan was gay'. Apparently Ned escaped to Queensland
and Dan and Steve were doing the nasty!! And
Dan got so pissed off when Steve was killed that
it was actually him who donned the armour and
took on the police, got caught... and was hanged
in Neds place. YEAH RIGHT!! Where do these morons
come from? I think Barry
McArthur was HOPING Dan was gay...
Barry McArthur!
From: Andy P [andypc@dove.mtx.net.au]
Anyone got any
information about someone called Barry
McArthur, who has recently suggested
Dan Kelly was hung AS Ned Kelly? Barry
suggests that Ned escaped Glenrowen being
a hopeless situation, whereupon Dan Kelly
put on the armor and was caught. Looking
at the limited photographic records of
Ned and Dan one assumes there is a possability
that the public may not have known the
difference between them. Im curious as
to any info on Barry's views, any book?
An Official
Ned Kelly Society?
From:
Anthony Smit [smit1@ozemail.com.au]
All those who would like
to see Ned kelly and the gang get pardons and
are interested in doing something about it can
email me. I know there are a lot out there, all
we need is some organisation. I would love your
ideas and feedback. Come on the man deserves
it. I would like to start an Official Ned Kelly
Society. Any takers?
It's all
Ned's fault!
From:
A.M. Stackpool [stackpoolam@cww.octec.org.au]
An interesting website. You will excuse me if I don't
share your enthusiasm for Kelly or the rest of his
mob, however, one of the beauties of history is that,
hopefullly, all viewpoints should be taken into consideration.
I note you have not included in your account some matters
like: Hare's offer to find Ned a job out of the area
to try to keep him out of trouble. Ned's cutting of
of one of Kennedy's ears after his brutal murder as
a defenceless and helpless man. Ned's little joke of
sending Mrs McCormack the calf's testicles, although
he was ahppy to brag about the beating he gave her
husband later on. You describe Constable Hall as thuggish.
You do not comment on Ned's brag that
he drove his spurs repeatedly into the smaller man's
sides as he resisted arrest. Poor old Ned then complains
that Hall, badly injured, had hit him with a revolver
butt to pacify him. You do not comment on the fear
reported in official and media sources by towndwellers,
the search party that went looking for the bodies at
Stringybark Creek (as brave a group of men as people
claim Kelly and Co to have been) or by hawkers, teamsters
and other travellers that they would be ambushed or
otherwise attacked. It's fine for people of the late
20th Century to romanticise about bushranging villainy
as something exciting; they have never looked down
the barrel of a cocked Navy revolver held by a man
prepared to use it if they didn't comply.
At Jerilderie, Euroa and Glenrowan
Kelly and Co would have killed without a second thought;
note kelly's threat to the prisoners at Glenrowan if
they reported the gang to the police. Kelly committed
a handful of crimes and botched the one's he planned;
Joe Byrne was the 'brains' of the outfit. Compare that
to Ben Hall (over 630 crimes - and no murders) and
John Gilbert - some 650. They kept the police on the
hop for some five years and were a darn sight more
flash than Kelly ever was. Quite simply, if he hadn't
put that ridiculous dustbin over his head he would
have faded in to history as a rather unpleasant interlude.
On your feedback sheet there was an
inquiry about whether Kelly was ever around Wagga.
In reply to this person, this was probably Andrew Scott
(Captain Moonlite's) gang who was active at the same
time until stopped at Wantabadgery. Also, to those
people asking about the mysterious body in Queensland.
I think Ian Jones summed it up best. There have always
been rumours of Joe Byrne, Jim Kelly and Dan all ending
up in Queensland; what I call the "Jesus Factor" (a
hoped-for resurrection). At last count there were at
least two dozen old bushies who claimed they were Joe
or Dan. All were proved wrong. I would suggest the
body at Ipswich falls into the same category. Had they
escaped we would not have seen the brouhaha which erupted
among their family members the night after Glenrowan.
Let's let them rest in peace. Where
did you learn your history? Sorry but you get an F
for this piece of writing!
re: It's
all Ned's fault!
From: Trevor Cheeseman [iceman@dragnet.com.au]
Great site. Your feedback page is well worth reading.
The Kelly debate will go on forever it seems. Recently
I read in 50/50 in the Melbourne Herald Sun comments
a bloke made likening Ned Kelly to the thugs who beat
up a couple of coppers. I replied to 50/50 but it did
not get published. One cannot blame the family's of
the brave policemen at Stringbark for harboring a hatred
for Ned and his actions or for that matter the family
of Aaron Sherritt. However I would urge the rest of
Australians to look closer at this extraordinary human
being and wonder should his circumstances have been
different,what would we read of him today.
In your reply to the person referring
to the fight with Constable Hall you neglect to mention
that not only was Ned sixteen years of age but Constable
Hall was 18 stone. And yet the brave Constable still
had to pistol whip Ned AFTER receiving the additional
help of four or five other grown men. This was one
tough Aussie that Constable Hall was dealing with.
Ned is truly an interesting subject to debate. While
there is some grounds for self defence at Stringybark
due to Ned having called on the police (who were not
in uniform) to surrender (see Trial of Ned Kelly -
Phillips) the characters of the gang was surely tainted
with plundering the dead bodies of the policeman for
their personal belongings.
Also continually stealing horses and
cattle (which was indulged by his close confederates
even after his death) definitely shows a villainous
side. And yet Jones writes of Ned having returned to
a hotel in Everton to repay a lady who fed the gang
while they were on the run from Stringbark. And distributing
money from the Euroa and Jerilderie raids amongst the
poor sympathisers, paints a Robin Hood like character.
So was Ned a hero or a villain? I think that the what
is remarkable about Ned Kelly is his Mona Lisa like
quality in that he can be whatever we want him to be.
And I think that this is due to a
culmination of events that took place while Ned was
on the run. A sense of lawlessness was always there,
the bravado to defy authority. Again this could have
been a lot to do with his circumstances and most certainly
to do with a degree of harassment of him and his family
by the police. But I think that the events of Stringbark
altered Ned from a common horse theif to a would be
revolutionary and the events following only served
to enforce this fact. Combining this with the extraordinary
physical qualities of the man and you certainly have
a subject to talk about.
Was Ned a
racist?
From:
The Bannon Family of Pirates [nickbannon@bigpond.com.au]
Ned Kelly apparently wrote, " I tell you that
highway robbery is only in its infancy, for the white
population is been driven out of the labour market
by an inundation of Mongolians, and when the white
man is driven to desperation there will be desperate
times". The article I am writing evolves around
the fact that some of our 'heroes' were, unfortunately,
racist, but these facts go un-mentioned (Lawson and
Banjo Patterson also were opposed to Chinese migration). I
don't want to take away from Ned, he was my hero as
a kid and I still have a huge fascination, but I'm
just pointing out some brutal (racist) facts about
Australian History. Remember
dear Bannons that Australia was officially racist for
the first 60 years of the 20th century with the White
Australia Policy. You cannot place 21st century ethics
into 19th century history!
Mick Jagger
as Ned Kelly
From:
Andy Marshall [Andy.Marshall@dewrsb.gov.au]
I like this site, it is well designed and informative
but I can't read some of the text because it appears
overlapping other text and pictures. Is this my browser?Anyway,
what I really want to ask is: Why is it so fashionable
to bag out Tony Richardson's 1970 film, "Ned Kelly"?For
instance you yourself describe this film as "utter
crap" but do not say why you think so. I've seen
both this one and the 1980 mini series and can hardly
tell them apart for quality. In fact I think Mick Jagger
made a better job of it than Jon Jarratt who has got
to be one of the worst actors in the world.
A tough but disinterested critic such
as Leonard Maltin gives it two and a half stars which
is high praise indeed coming from that quarter. Could
it be that a respected foreign film critic such as
Maltin can see what you apparently can't? That the
fact that an English rock star is cast to play an Irish/Australian
to the soundtrack of a couple of Americans (Shel Silverstein
and Waylon Jennings) does not necessarily mean that
the film is bad? P.S. I got the address for your site
from a link in an article in "The Times" of
London. The article contained the words: "Kelly,
who was little better than a common criminal...".
Judging by the tone of this site, you aren't going
to let that one through to the 'keeper are you? Let
me at em!
Disband the Victorian police force
From: Bern [Bern@zip.com.au]
The Australian Prisoners Association congratulates
you on a wonderful site made possible by a truly great
Australian. Ned Kelly deserves far better treatment
than what history has previously dealt him. The Ian
Jones research in the book was rich and hopefully the
story will continue to depict Ned and the hardships
of the past in a far more realistic light. Pity they
did not disband the Victorian police force way back
then. Keep up the good work. ( Makkah: Ian R. Mac Dougall). Hmm,
and wouldnt it be a great society with no police
force. Just like living in Beirut or the Gaza Strip...
Big Kelly fan
From: Sharyn [sfitzsimmons@mpx.com.au]
As a very big Kelly fan, I found your site to be excellent.
For all those people asking about The Last Outlaw,
I taped all 4 parts off the tv,Channel 7, so i expect
that if u gave them a call they should be able to help
you all.
Organised tour of Kelly Country
From: Collins [benjrat@alphalink.com.au]
I was wondering why no one has established
an organised tour of Kelly Country? It
would have been organised 30 years ago
if it was in the States. By the way, impressive
site.
Well produced
From: Wanda Moore [wmoore@primus.com.au]
What a great site. Well produced and informative. Anyone
interested in the real Kellys should see this site.
Fitzpatrick
From: Harper-Phillips [harperphillips@bigpond.com]
Was Ned present at the Fitzpatrick
incident? Ellen Kelly, Ned's mother, was arrested
and goaled for the attempted murder of Const. Fitpatrick.
Fitzpatrick stated Ned shot at him. Ellen Kelly said
Ned was "400 miles away." According to
Ian Jones,the author of "Ned Kelly:A Short Life",
Ned carried out his last(?) building job in the summer
of 1878 with Joe Byrne, a homestead for his mother
at Eleven Mile Creek. Dan Kelly had just returned
home from Beechworth Goal in late January 1878 before
they "rode off" with a string of horses
to sell. Ned is quoted, in writing, as saying "I
left the colony (of Victoria) to become a rambling
gambler!" Superintendant Hare,at the time, is
quoted as stating, "I believe Ned Kelly and
Joe Byrne are headed into NSW - gambling from town
to town with proceeds from the sale."
On the 15th
March, 1878, a warrant was issued for Ned Kelly for
horse theft. On the 15th April, a drunken Fitzpatick
visited the Kelly homestead to arrest Dan for horse
theft, and alledgedly made advances towards Kate,(Ned's
sister), to which the Kelly family members present
took offence. It is alleged, Ellen attacked
him with a coal shovel and Ned shot at him three
times at point blank(and missed!!). Inspector Brooke
Smith, in Beechworth, gave S.C. Stratham 6 days leave
from Greta to search for NK in NSW. Ned later stated
he was "400 miles away" and "knew
nothing of this transaction". In his Jerilderie
letter, Ned again writes he says "I swear I
was 400 miles away from home" at the time of
the "attempted murder" on Const. Fitzpatrick.
Guess what town is 400 miles from Greta?... Sydney!
119th Anniversary
From: Steven Jager [steven_jager@hotmail.com] 11
Nov 99
Well it's the 119th Anniversary
today and I didn't get the chance to get to
the gaol anyway. What I wanted to tell you
is that in today's paper, (11/11/1999) there
is an article on Ned, as always saying that
it is his 119th anniversary to his captue in
Glenrowan. And last but not least the scarf
that Thomas Curnow used to alert the police
about the gang in the Inn is being displayed
at the gaol only for a short time. Anway I
forgot to ask you how long have you followed
Ned Kelly for? I'm 16 years old and I can't
remember how long I've been a fanatic for.
I think it's been since I was 7years old. One
more thing, at the start of the year I made
a replica of Ned's amour. As soon as I get
a photo of it and have it scanned I will send
you a copy.
Ned Kelly
theme park
From: [hhalem@glassnotes.com]
A few years ago
I travelled to Australia as and artist
in residence at the Art School in Canberra.
At that time I visited the Nolan Gallery
on the outskirts of Canberra where I
saw for the first time the Ned Kelly
paintings by Sidney Noland. I was immediately
struck by there brilliance. Noland's
ability to not only capture the essence
of this man and his "gang" but
his ability to depict the Australian
landscape struck me as nothing short
of genius. At the time I became immersed
in the legend and read all that I could
get my hands on to try and understand
what it was about Ned Kelly that seemed
to trancend his value beyond being merely
an outlaw. Beyond that I was struck by
the extroidinary metaphor of his beating
plowshares into swords. I produced one
work of art based on Kelly and his gang
and it resides in Canberra at the art
school I believe. I would also suggest
that one could create a Ned Kelly theme
park ala Disney World. How's that for
crass commercialism. Thanks for the website
and restoking my facination with you.
Kelly Trail
From: Geoff Keane [gkeane@launch.net.au]
Great web site,
well done. It's about time someone did
something properly. I've been interested
in all things Kelly since my aunty gave
me a Kelly book when I was 10. I'm 38
now. I'm a Kelly fan, and I make no apologies
for being one. One point I'd like to
raise is the lack of tourist information
available in Victoria. I'm from Queensland,
and in March last year I did a drive
through "Kelly Country" but
I could find no maps showing things like
where Ned's "Eleven Mile" property
was (and I mean a proper map showing
turn-offs, distances etc). I was also
amazed that there were no signs posted
anywhere in the area that I could see
(and I did look!). I would have thought
that a "Kelly Trail" or something
would exist for people to follow. Even
at Greta there was nothing to indicate
its significance. Don't they want tourist
$? Do you know of any decent maps available?
I would like to go back, but I'm not
prepared to aimlessly wander around a
maze of back roads again.
The Last
Outlaw
From: Anthony Smit [smit1@ozemail.com.au]
Great site, heaps
of good info but make sure it is accurate
cause people will know. If you want to
know who the real murderers and animals
were read page 324 of A Short Life. Yes
the armour in the Melbourne Gaol isnt
Neds. I noticed that the first time I
went there. Dans armour is in the Police
Museum in Bourke Street, Melbourne if
any one wants a look. I have a copy of
The Last Outlaw and I am going to make
another to send to my friend who runs
the motel in Glenrowan so he or Garry
Dean can show it for visitors. I dont
want to infringe copyright though. Keep
up the good work.
The Last
Outlaw
From: Cameron Lamond [clamond31@yahoo.com]
Great site, pity about some of the 'expert' comments...
there are those whom could read and investigate some
more... cutting off ears, really...that was dispelled
two weeks after the event and now 119 years later it
lives on, thanks to the feeble minded, whom no doubt
know nothing of the bush. Or the Kelly history. THAT
BLASTED VIDEO SERIES... can be borrowed from the National
Library in Canberra apparently. I have a copy and it
took me 19 years to get (and that was a fluke) so good
luck to y'all. Also... the suit of armour on display
in The Old Melbourne Gaol is not only not Neds, but
also has its' helmet on backwards... did anyone else
notice?
Men who put there lives on the
line
From: Frances Calder [FMHutch@bigpond.com]
First of all I would like to
congratulate you on a excellent web site.
I have only been using the internet for
about two weeks and found your site by
accident. As an aussie and a bike rider
(Harley-Davidsons). The old outlaws hold
a place close to my heart for their disregards
of the pommie law and political system
, that screwed them in the 1st place and
is still trying to screw the commoners
today. Cheers to Ned Kelly and Peter Lalor
and so on for their strength to unite the
people and show us even today that if you
stand up for yourself you will get the
recongnition you deserve. Men who put there
lives on the line for what they believe
is right and fair!!!
To the dickhead who tried to put Ned
in the same class as Martin Bryant, wake up to yourself,
Bryant was a physotic idiot with a large wealth, where
Ned was just a young man who was trying to help his
family survive any way he could. On a last note, I
wonder what Ned would think if he could look down and
see how far he has gone into the future, over 150 years
later and he is still a hot topic and thought of by
every Australian at least once in there lives. I know
damm well no one will give a shit about bryant in a
150 years.
Armour not
Neds
From: Cameron Lamond [clamond31@yahoo.com]
Greatest site on the net... Congratulations. 1) For those seeking
a video of "The Last Outlaw" Good luck... it has taken me 19 years
to get one (and that was a fluke). For any residents of the A.C.T. try the
National Library. I was told once that's a chance. 2) Has anyone else noticed
that the set of armour at the Old Melbourne Gaol is not actually Ned's as is
claimed? It is actually either Dan or Steves as it is the same suit that is
in the photos from 1880 described as being 'raked from the ashes' of Ann Jones'
Inn. The photo shows the obvious signs of charring on the suits. Ned didn't
get burned! Neither did his armour. His real armour must be what is recently
claimed to be Steve Harts... not charred and the most bullet dings! Also the
suit at the Gaol (either Dan or Steve's actually) has it's helmet on backwards.Compare
it to the other correctly orientated sets. The breast plate is actually the
back plate. Look at it... how could you raise a rifle to your shoulder with
the protruding iron 'T' at the top. Any thoughts?
Related somehow to the Kelly family?
From: Southpark [plucas@powerup.com.au]
About 4 years ago I was told
we were related somehow to the Kelly family.
Of course family stories cant be trusted.
The only possible connection maybe the
following. Would you know the best person
to direct this to? Do you have Ian Jones
conatct no? I was also told William Jones(Ancestor)
use to visit Mrs Kelly at Greta. The info
Im trying to prove is BARTON Frances Mary
Ann married Lloyd Thomas William 1880 Glebe
Trying to establish if this is my Barton.
I have appled for the certificate but I
am impatient! Would appreciate any help.
Public speaking
From: R.F.and J.
Cleland [clelands@ihug.com.au]
Save me from a long search - I'll still do it as I
have time - but the family was discussing the Kellys
(we live near Beveridge - the house is a DISGRACE,
supposed to be restored - yeah right. Did one of his
sisters make money after Ned was hung, by doing public
speaking, and the family was not pleased... I'm
sure I heard this.
My school project
From: Bernadette
Mary Barnes [bernA@fan.net.au]
Hi my name is jessica and I would really like to find
out more info for my school project my school is verry
intersted in NED KELLY and I'm even more I know you
probly get heaps of email but I would like to
tell you what I think of ned kelly I think it was injust
of the things that happend to ned when he was
a child and I think yhat if that didn't happen then
he wouldn't or the chances would of been less of him
being a bushranger I have read a lot on ned and
I hope you give more info.
Family Tree
From: Darren Kearney [nzworm@yahoo.com]
Would you be able to confirm whether an exhaustive
family tree has been compiled for the Kelly family.
If so, where could I obtain a copy? My family have
been led to believe my grandfather's grandmother was
Harry Power's sister, and that Power was somehow related
to the Kellys. Any family connection would have been
in Eire before arrival in Australia & NZ. By the
way, your site is extremely impressive and has helped
pass the afternoon for a Kiwi living in London.
Thomas Curnow
From: Reg Collinson [regbev@git.com.au]
I am writing to you in reference to your story on Ned
Kelly. My great grandmother was Thomas Curnow's sister
Katherine. I have in my possession a paper cutting
telling of the part that the Curnow's played in the
capture of Ned Kelly. The cutting is from the Hobart
Mercury dated June 17, 1931. In your report of the
incident of the stopping of the train you said that
a red silk handkerchief was wrapped around the lamp,
in the paper it was said to be a red cloth shawl that
she was wearing. In any event what was used does not
matter. I have also got a piece of the shawl/handkerchief
that was given to me by my mother who in turn got it
from her mother who was Katherine Trudgian (nee Curnow).
I have been told by my mother that the shawl was cut
up into small pieces and given to collectors around
the world.
An excellent site
From: Rainer Skorzeny [torch75@hotmail.com]
Jesus Christ what an excellent site mate!! I was going
to do a Ned Kelly site myself but after seeing yours
Im not going to bother as Im sure it would be pretty
lame compared to yours,ahh well theres always Ben Hall
or Frank Gardiner i could base a webpage on. I couldnt
find the screensaver on ya site i clicked on the link
and there were only jpgs, any chance of getting it
in the future? Cheers and thanks mate.
Added a bookmark
From: Clive R Hutchison [clive@ultra.net.au]
Congratualtions on the depth and design of your Kelly
country website. I have added a bookmark and will visit
again.
A great man Ned Kelly
From: Gypsi [gypsi@boomer.cx]
Thank you for all your hard work and effort on a great
web page about a great man Ned Kelly. It's great to
read up all about Ned and all those involved. The pictures
are an extra bonus, it's wonderful to see what those
involved looked like, makes the story all the more
interesting. I will defently be book marking your page,
I'll keep comming back now and then. Your sight on
Ned Kelly is the best I have came across on the net.
I'll defently be looking out for some of the books
your recommended. Keep up the good work.
Shoot them down like dogs
From: P J M [caveman_kev@yahoo.com]
I have been studying Ned Kelly ever since I was 5,
and as I'm 25, that's 20 years of research! I don't
blame Ned and the Gang for what they have done, I probably
wouldv'e done the same thing myself! Ned Kelly was
not given a fair trial. The police were going to hunt
Ned and the Gang down, and shoot them down like dogs.
So to Ned, it was self defence that he shot and killed
3 policemen. The bullshit laws are still the same now
as they were back in Ned Kelly's time. The 1881 Royal
Inquest on the Victorian Police had changed the Victorian
Police force a little bit, but it's still shoot first,
ask questions later. And the police are still as corrupt
as ever. And I don't blame the people of North Eastern
Victoria for helping the Kelly Gang either. My name
is Kevin Butler, I'm from Wangaratta, and I'm a very
staunch Ned Kelly supporter.
Read between the lines
From: Gary Young [gyoung@magicnet.net.au]
Hi, I read your entire web page[s]... I also worked
for 8 years with a civil rights defence lawyer writing
appeal briefs... [among other things..] AND a lot of
what happened THEN... happens TODAY... [just go visit
a courthouse or read between the lines of your newspaper...].
YOU SHOULD STAND UP AND TAKE A BOW... You have done
Australia proud... A GREAT WEBSITE!! And if no one
has asked you... let me be the first... place this
where people can see it and join with me in requesting
you stand... congrats... a fine job!
Joe Byrne
From: Trevor Cheeseman [iceman@dragnet.com.au]
Your site is going well. Your readers maybe interested
to know that a movie is due to be made (shot around
Mansfield) that is the Kelly story told from Joe Byrne's
point of view. It may take the heat of Ian Jones' "The
Last Outlaw". I do not know many details of it
but you could try contacting Gary at Glen Rowen Cobb
and Co. I think that it is being made by the director
of "Heartbreak High" (perish the thought).
Good luck to him anyway, may he do the story proud.
I have also purchased a video from the department of
Tourism (Albury) which is a collection of early films
on the Kelly Gang. I believe that one of these is not
only the world's first feature film but it is also
regarded as the worlds first Western.
Bail Up
From: A.M. Stackpool [stackpoolam@cww.octec.org.au]
I notice you are still receiving queries about the
Ian Jones' mini-series. No. I don't know when copies
will be available, however, you may be aware and you
clentele may be interested to know that the National
Archives have put out a video about the early bushranger
films entitled "BAIL UP". It includes footage
from the early Kelly films and is worth a look. Had
a look at your links, the Glenrowan Cobb & Co site
is of course Gary Dean. Also, don't knock the kids'
sites, at least they are trying and may become the
Australian historians of the future (about time we
had some!!). Same with the American site.
Yes, it is not good, but they do make
some interesting social comparisons wrt Jesse James.
After all, both men claim similar excuses for turning
out. And both were about as successful. I notice you
have had several questions about Ellen Kelly. Are you
intending anything on the Kelly women or the other
family members? Finally, one thing not said before.
I enjoy your film section. The detail is excellent.
Incidentally, don't knock old Mick too much. I concur,
however, I also understand the film would never have
been made if he hadn't paid for it himself. At least
it gave us a chuckle, but I dont think Cultural Cringe
was responsible.
From Milan
Italy
From: Gerardo Trimarco [getrimar@tin.it]
I was really impressed when i've been in Australia
(6 years ago i think) and i went to visit the Ned Kelly's
museum. That time i took some photos (i'm a photographer).about
Kelly armour. And now when i placed my first site (it's
not really beauty) i put inside it one of those pictures.
Than i found out your site and so i put your URL in
my site below that photo. I hope you are agree aren't
you? I live in Milan Italy I hope as son as i can to
come back to Australia there I have my aunty. ps My
site is: space.tin.it/arte/getrima from
home page click on the flag to go to Australia photos.
National Bank in Euora
From: Bruce Watt [bwatt@chc.net.au]
Hi Please accept my congratulations on your wonderful
Ned Kelly web site. My great uncle became Manager of
the National Bank in Euora in 1882 which is 3 years
after it was robbed by the Kelly Gang in 1879. However
I believe my uncle was working with the bank during
the hold-up and that a Mr Scott was the then manager.
Thus I was wondering if you had any further details
on the hold-up or can offer advice where I may find
it. My uncle was a long time resident of Euroa and
made some significant contributions to the early development
of Euroa. His name was William Benjamin Pleasents,
and in a book I am writing on my family a chapter will
be devoted to him.
Educational Value
From: Kerry Underhill [Kerry.Underhill@det.nsw.edu.au]
To the Web Manager. The New South Wales Department
of Education and Training's web site Network for Education www.dse.nsw.edu.au provides
students and teachers with a quality, safe, secure
environment which can contribute to improved student
learning outcomes. As your site: Ned Kelly- Australian
Iron Outlaw has been identified as one that would be
of educational value to the teachers and students of
NSW Government schools, we wish to provide a direct
link to it in the Hot Links section of Curriculum Resources.
Should you object to this link or require further information
please contact Kerry.Underhill@det.nsw.edu.au by Wednesday
24 February 1999.
Neds birthdate
From: Geronimo [geron1mo@tpgi.com.au]
I have found some mention of Neds birthdate but it
is only listed as Dec 1854 I was wondering was his
birth recorded at all and if it was is there a copy
of the register. Any help would be greatly appreciated. There
is no official record of Ned Kelly's birth
Australian History homework
From: Fraser MacFarlane [macffj01@mail.ormiston.qld.edu.au]
Hi, I had to use your site for some Australian History
homework. Your site saved my skin. I would have gotten
detention if it wasn't for your brilliant site. Once
again thanks a lot.
A Short Life
From: Robert Scull [robertscull@patash.com.au]
Your right, you definetly have the best Ned web sight
in the world. Lots of interesting information
and comments on Australia's greatest hero. I've
been interested in Ned since I was a little boy and
am currently half way through Ian Jones's book "A
Short Life" which really takes you back to when
it all happened. I wish they would put that Mini
Series (with John Jarrett) on again as I found that
very entertaining. It would be great to see a
documentary made on Ned similar to the one that was
done on the American Civil War not to long ago. What
do you think? I'm sure there is enough material
around and if Ian Jones was behind it then it would
surely be a success. I like to ask him to do
it but I don't know how to get in contact with him. Maybe
you know? Anyway, thanks for giving me another great
web site to bookmark.
Mick Jagger
From: Mike Phillips [harperphillips@bigpond.com]
Sunday Telegraph 13.12.98: "$4 million Price Tag
On Ned Kelly's Head" - "An American History
buff has offered $4m for Ned Kelly's skull..." This
article finishes up by stating the skull was transferred
to the Melbourne Gaol Musuem in 1972. Isn't it still
missing or is the rumour Mick Jagger bought it when
doing the Tony Richardson film true after all? Have
you ever heard of the PC Game called "Wanted:Ned
Kelly" which involves tracking down the gang members
througout Kelly Counrty published by Aston Scholastic?
What about putting some of the old bush ballads or
poetry on NK on your site?
Done Ned proud
From: David Kalmund [kalkon@ssn.net.au]
Simply brilliant. I was enthralled from beginning to
end. Mate you have done Ned proud. Have you ever considered
taking a look at Breaker Morant, another poor bugger
criminalised by the English.
Fascinated by the legend
From: Rohan Coxon [roco@bigpond.com]
Ive just visited your home page and Im fascinated by
the legend of the Kelly Gang. Ive also just read an
article that claimes that Dan Kelly may not have died
at the seige as originally thought and that someone
wants to have a body in nth Q-land exhumed for DNA
testing to prove this. This person claims that his
grandfather knew someone who claimed to be Dan Kelly
and this person died in the 1930's. Do you have any
info about this. If so I would really appreciate anything
you can share.
The
Last Outlaw
From: Mark and Zita Pel [pel@computech.com.au]
Could you please let me know if the Ned Kelly movie
made in 1980 is available on video. At thet time I
was not old enough to see it. I look forward to your
reply
From New
York City, USA
From: [FraGreg@aol.com]
I'd like to thank you for creating such a comprehensive
page devoted to Ned Kelly. I'm a 9th grade student
from NYC doing a paper on Kelly, and what his reaction/criticism
of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights would
be. Your page is of great help.
William Bailey
From: David Hobson [dhobson@ozemail.com.au]
Hello. Thank you for the great information about Ned
Kelly and his gang. There was a lot of information
there that I didn't know previously. My ancestor William
Bailey died in 1919. He was 86 years old. In "The
Daily Advertiser" Wednesday November 19, 1919
(a newspaper published in Wagga Wagga, NSW. It
states that: "The late Mr Bailey and his wife
had many trying experiences amongst the blacks and
with the Morgan and Kelly bushranging gang. He being
at that time stock keeping on The Rock and Sandy Creek
stations..." I would be most interested if you
know of any incident involving the Kelly gang in the
area of Wagga. Thank you for any time and considerations
that you give to my message. And thank you for the
information that you have already given on you homepage.
Ned Kelly's Last Words
From: Karen Fry [kazfry@cobweb.com.au]
Could you please settle a *discussion* on Ned Kelly's
last words. Were they "Such is life" or "Ah
Well, I suppose it had to come to this" Many thanks
- I've just discovered this site so will let you know
more of what I and my husband think. Looks good so
far!!
Rekindled an interest
From: Warrick Whatman [warrick.whatman@dpmc.gov.au]
Thanks for the great Ned Kelly site. Have just finished
Ned Kelly: A short Life which has rekindled an interest
in the bushranger - I toured Kelly country back in
1987... Do you know if the Last Outlaw is available
on video?
The Last Outlaw
From: Trevor Eadie [treve@tig.com.au]
I would like to thank you for creating a web page on
the Pegasus Production of the Last Outlaw. In my opinion,
it is by far, the best feature ever produced on the
Kelly Saga. I would like to bring it to your attention
that for quite some time now, I have been hoping that
this feature would somehow be released on video for
the public at large. I feel that such a notion would
most certainly be a good way to preserve the essence
of the Australian Culture of the colony / post-colony
years. Another Pegeasus Production feature which I
was interested in is, 'Against The Wind'. I was hoping
that they would release this on video as well. If there
are any links or contacts that you may know of, which
you, or I can make enquiries about the possibilities
of such features being released, please let me know.
From
the United States of America
From: Amy [ajl62813@marauder.millersv.edu]
Hey. How are you doing? I was checking out your Ned
Kelly page today and wondered it you'd be able to help
me at all. I'm an American trying to do a uni assignment
on Ned and can't seem to locate any books here on him.
Maybe I'm just searching my library wrong, I don't
know. But, I will say that your site and all the links
you included are going to help me immensely. My question
is if you know the titles of any books that have been
written about him so that I may look them up and maybe
hopefully find them somewhere around here. Any help
you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
We are allowed to choose any "hero" to
do this project on so I could change but I really want
to learn more about him. By the way, I lived in Bathurst,
NSW for 6 months last year (went to Charles Sturt Uni)
so that's why I know about him. I'm not just another
dumb American who's oblivious to your country :) ...
actually right about now i wish I was back there instead
of here with the pile of uni work I'm getting! hehe
Ok, take care. Again, you have a great site and it's
going to help me heaps! Thanks for any help you can
give me! Keep smiling.
Kelly Comics
From: Rosaleen Kirby [rose@access.com.au]
HI. Have enjoyed your sites on Ned Kelly (I am using
him as my subject for a bibliography which is an assignment
on my Masters course). Are the Kelly Komics available
anywhere? Thanks in advance for your help.
The Last Outlaw
From: Ian Egan [iegan@swin.edu.au]
Just wanted to say congratulations on your home page.
I'm a 25 year old "Ned" head from Melbourne,
and it's so ggod to see quality pages about him finally
coming through. Just a question for you, I have episodes
2,3,4 of the Last Outlaw on Video (some prick stole
number 1) dubbed from Melbourne Uni. I wrote to Ian
Jones but never got a reply. Have you got episode 1??
It's such a great series, Ian Jones' two books on the
subject are bloody good too. Have you got a book called "In
search of ned"? I paid $50 for it, but it was
well worth it, although some of the descriptions of
how to get places are a bit dodgy. Anyway, well done
again and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
Ned is a kind of relative of ours
From: Tom Langley [langley@emirates.net.ae]
I have an avid interest in Ned
since I was a lad. I was brought up on
bushranging tales... Ben Hall was shot
on my Aunt's station and his saddle and
pistol were in the family for years...
Ned is a kind of relative of ours... the
wrong side of the blanket, I am afraid... "Red" Kelly's
brother came as a navvy to England and
left his mark in the family... it was in
the "black country" around a
little place called Tipton....Ned's exploits
in Oz were followed by this branch of the
family and when he was hanged a mass was
said for him in the Catholic church in
Chasetown. We are very proud of Ned and
are pleased to see that there is a site...
I have one of the first comics, a penny
dreadful, published in 52 weekly parts
in UK in 1881... written by James Skipp
Borlase "Ned Kelly: The Ironclad Australian
Outlaw" Some of the illustrations
are fantastic... totally fanciful... Ned
with a sabre, Ned with the Fenians, I'll
fax some up if you like. Strength to you
and your site. Floreat Ned!
From
the United States of America
From: Donald Boore [abnsgm@cct.infi.net]
I visited Australia in 1996 with my daughter and visited
Glenrowan. I was fasciated by the story of Ned Kelly,
and this Web Site gave me answers to all the questions
I had about this legend. Really enjoyed it. Thanks
a lot, SGM Don Boore, US Army Retired
From Bangkok,
Thailand
From: Paul W. Jensen [dietedp@ksc.th.com]
Great site mate. We are organising a golf tournament
between Aussies and Irishmen here in Bangkok and we
will play for the Ned Kelly Shield (reportedly stolen
from the Old Melbourne Gaol). Your site has helped
a lot with the history. May the legend continue.
Sidney Nolan
From: Natalie Stuckings [MASP@coombs.anu.edu.au]
I was just came across your website of the Ned Kelly
Series, by Sidney Nolan. It was wonderful to see all
the images so beautifully produced! Just one minor
possible error: it is stated that the paintings are
located in The Nolan Gallery, ACT. In actual fact,
the paintings are in The Australian National Gallery,
ACT. Thanks for the great website!
The Last Outlaw
From: Rosemary Sanders [rrsanders@ozemail.com.au]
Please get back to me if you can tell me how to find
a copy of "The Last Outlaw" on video. I have
been searching for years. Im desperate!
Write to Ian Jones
From: Neal [neal@tac.com.au]
Just a short thank you for your Ned Kelly home page.
I found it very fascinating. Do you know how I could
write to Ian Jones who wrote the Ned Kelly biography?
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again! Try
his publisher
From
New Jersey, USA
From: [mbein@ix.netcom.com]
Hello, I am writing from New Jersey in the U.S. I have
been admiring your Ned Kelly page- wow! Everything
you ever wanted to know about NK & then some! I
am searching for a Ned Kelly souvenir snow dome - a.k.a.
snowstorm, snowglobe, waterdome, shakie... I found
a picture of one on a collector's site, which was found
in Glenrowan. Can you suggest a place to contact there?
I tried your link for the NK gift shop but it was not
active. I'd really appreciate any suggestions. I've
had very good luck ordering from Australia, so am hoping...
Thanks a lot for your time, Miriam Bein, New Jersey,
U.S.A.
Words of a song
From: Christine Rose [christinejrose@hotmail.com]
I'm Looking for the words of a song that begins 'Ned
Kelly was born in a ramshackle hut He battled since
he was a kid He grew up with bad men and duffers and
thieves And learned all the things that they did At
16 young Ned was a wild reckless man..." I have
most of the words but missing a couple of verses in
the middle. Hope that you can help me.
Rock opera about Ned Kelly
From: M and C Simpson-Morgan [mcsm@rka.com.au]
Hi there, may I suggest some info on the short-lived
but EXCELLENT "rock opera" about Ned Kelly,
which I have a dubbed cassette recording of? The lyrics
are by Reg Livermore, and the music by Patrick Flynn
(music director for the original Australian production
of "Hair".) I've searched high and low for
next to no info on the production; perhaps you can
find something on it?
Pseudo Historian
From: A.M. Stackpool [stackpoolam@cww.octec.org.au]
I am amused that you see fit to label my comments as
being "On my high horse". I also am amused
that you see fit to label Gary Dean's comments as bad.
You are obviously totally unaware that Gary is one
of the better bushranging historians of the North-east
around. I also take great offence at your real villains
page. Barry did not say some of the things you claim,
although I am no apologist for him. Your historical
facts are wrong. There was only one bunch of real villains,
their names were Ned and Dan Kelly, Joe Byrne and Steve
Hart; perhaps you should read up on some of the lesser
known comments and documents which came out of the
area after the outbreak. Still, you seem content to
quote from Manning Clark, another pseudo historian
and British-hating Irishman NOT Australian (which by
the way Ned Kelly never saw himself as either). As
a recent historian said, "Manning Clark's works
were better left as trees." Might I suggest you
employ less bias and more scholarship / research; recycling
myth has become a little passe. Stackpool
you are a genius
Picture of Ned Kelly
From: Michaella Kildare [12675@redcliffshs.qld.edu.au]
My name is Michaella Kildare I attend Redcliffe State
High school and I am currently doing a web page for
Junior History. I would *really* like it if I could
have your permission to use a picture of Ned Kelly
for my Home page. The one taken the day before he was
hung. It will only be used by school students.
re: Picture of Ned Kelly
From: Michaella Kildare [12675@redcliffshs.qld.edu.au]
Thanks for letting me use your pic. I had a quick look
at your new page, and your right it does have good
pics, but I'm still going to use the origional one
because it suites my page. The page that I'm making
can't be used as a link because it's internal within
the school (intranet?) and that's all I know.
Reward for the capture
From: Neville Fedley [nfedley@b022.aone.net.au]
We are studying the Kelly era at school and were wondering
which individuals received the reward for the capture
of the Kelly gang after Glenrowan. I would appreciate
any information you may have on this matter.
re: Reward for the capture
From: Neville Fedley [nfedley@b022.aone.net.au]
Thanks for your prompt reply last time I emailed you.
The information you sent concerning the reward money
was appreciated. I was wondering if you could put me
on the trak of obtaining a copy of Ian Jones' movie "The
Last Outlaw" which of course features the life
story of Ned Kelly. All the best and I hope to hear
from you soon.
The Last Outlaw
From: [ronida@ca.com.au]
Thank you for the information provided. As an EK fan,
I enjoyed it all very much. One question - I have been
unable to locate a copy of the mini series -"The
Last Outlaw", are you aware of how I can borrow
a copy?
Useful for my assignment
From: Patricia Ruell [P.Ruell@cchs.usyd.edu.au]
I found this sight, Ned Kelly, very interesting and
useful for my assignment, I thank you for giving the
time and effort to build it, and hope you continue
your efforts in the future.
Dan escaping from Glenrowan?
From: Geoff Hull [ghull@taunet.net.au]
I have just completed an essay on Ned, Dan, Steve and
Joe and the phenonemal impact they have, to this day
on Australians young and old. Could you shed some light
on the media reports that came through The Post magazine
in the mid - late seventies about Dan escaping from
Glenrowan and living a long and fruitful life. Frank
Clunes version in his book suggests the same. I would
appreciate any information you have on Dan's survival.
The Last Outlaw
From: John Guimelli [jotrrc@netvigator.com]
We have tried for many years to obtain a copy of the
mini series The Last Outlaw. Are you able to give us
any inroad into the availability of this film in video
form.
One of the best i've seen
From:
Ron Wilson [bullfarm@lisp.com.au]
I'm a Devoted Kelly Fan from the back of Bourke. I
hope you dont mind me putting a link on my page to
your site. When do you think you will put the Redgum
song there. I am also a Devoted Redgum fan, I've seen
them live twice, but have since lost all their albums
and have found it very hard to replace them . Especially
living out the back of Bourke. Top Site. One of the
best i've seen.
A lot of errors
From: Raymond Taylor [mwtaylor@ozemail.com.au]
This website had a lot of errors in it. Maybe you should
do a bit more research on Ned Kelly. Take
me to your leader
Dan Kelly surviving the shootout
From: Rohan and Kristin
Coxon [roco@bigpond.com]
I contacted you awhile ago re the possibility of dan
kelly surviving the shootout and living in QLD. Did
you see the news item re Ned kelly taking on dans identity
and moving to QLD. He later got hit by a train and
died. Dan was executed in Neds place or so the story
goes... Do you have any more onfo?
The Last Outlaw
From: Mark [hardcopy@logicworld.com.au]
Hi my name is Mark I was surffing the net the other
night looking for stuff about Ned Kelly and I can across
you home page. Well this is my Question : you had a
section about the last outlaw and I was woundering
if you know where I can get a copy of the series (It
was a clasic) please let me know I you know where I
can get a copy for myself.
Ned Kelly Family Tree
From: Paul Lucas [plucas@powerup.com.au]
Could you please advise me if there is a complete Ned
Kelly Family tree been done? I was told that my ancestors
Barton were related to Ned Kelly somehow. I'd appreciate
it if you could tell me if a family tree has been done.
Gustavus Adolphus William James
Herbert Edward Kelly
From: Gail [gtbaby@eisa.net.au]
My cousin is doing the Kelly family tree. In particular
we are researching Gustavus Adolphus William James
Herbert Edward Kelly. I was wondering if you have done
any research into Ned's family tree and, if so whether
you would be willing to share the information with
me.
Photos of his armour
From: Nick Housego
[marthamcevoy@mail.connect.net.au]
I have been trying to locate photos of his armour,
particularly his helmet. Are you able to email me with
any info about the current locality of the armour/helmet?
Is there any photos (not engravings or sketchs) of
it on the www?
Looks good
From: Old Melbourne
Gaol [omgaol@vicnet.net.au]
The site looks good. You obviously have fun with your
graphics package!
Content is so inaccurate
From: Ian [naiasil@labyrinth.net.au]
A lot of good html work there Brad, but the content
is so inaccurate with the exception of the Bucket on
his head link Yes there are
a few things on THIS page which are inaccurate!
Appreciate your site
From: Luke [anthology@one.net.au]
I really appreciate your site. I was able to find more
than sufficient information for my Bushrangers assignment.
I'm currently in year 9 at St. Joseph's College F.T.G.
Wonderous and disturbing
From: Johanna [jcfeathers@hotmail.com]
For a while I entered into the world Of Ned. And that
is always wonderous and disturbing. But I tell you
who we need more information on is his mum, Ellen.
She intrigues me. Thanks for letting me ride around
your notes.
Ned and Henry Lawson
From: Nick Bannon [nickbannon@bigpond.com.au]
Hi, thanks for your site. I am writing an article about
Ned and Henry Lawson, and I am looking for a copy of
a letter he wrote which I once saw in the Glenrowan
museum. It was a short letter, that said something
about the 'Mongolians' taking Australian's jobs. Do
you by any chance have the text of this letter? I
am trying to avoid a trip to Glenrowan.
Kate Kelly
From: James Michael
Lynch [jlyn2@students.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au]
This is not actually a comment but a question I am
wondering if you have any info concerning Kate Kelly's
(Ned's sister) family tree or something like that (follow
up what happend to her children after she died) since
she is supposedly my great great granma making Ned
Kelly my great great great uncle or just email me ASAP
to show that you take interest in my query. |