Ned’s
Lovers
From: Aidan Phelan [angelathornton@optusnet.com.au]
29 Dec 03
As I mentioned here earlier this year I am devising a
script about Ned Kelly. I would like to run past you
guys my choice for Ned's lover. I have looked at the
information on the subject at Bailup.com and decided
on using Ettie Hart as the love interest and it will
be shown as a doomed romance that begun not long after
Ned's boxing match when he goes to the races and Dan
brings along Steve and Ettie (who at first is indifferent
towards Ned but is quickly charmed by him). Ned is the
one who wants to break off the relationship after Stringybark
but she persits in helping him. She becomes more distant
when Ned devises the idea of the republic and she realises
that he is going to attempt treason etc. Well, I'd love
to hear what you think?
P.S. I here from a reliable source that there
is another Kelly film currently being made due for release
late next year. Do you guys have any info? It would be something
that I'm sure many Kellites would love to know about. I
know the Ledger film is due for US release in early 2004
Besieged
Screening on Channel 9
From: Paul O'Keefe [okeefe@smartchat.net.au]
04 Dec 03
I cannot believe channel 9's decision to screen
Besieged when it did, on Sunday 2pm last weekend. To
make matters worse it was on whilst the Davis Cup final
was being played out. So I dont really think it would
of rated very highly to say the least. To say I'm dissapointed
in the programming Department at 9 is an understatement.
I thought the final cut of Besieged was great. Prior
to its airing on 9 I saw it in its early stages at
Glenrowan, and then seeing it finished at its Sydney
Premiere a few weeks ago alot of work had been done
to get it just right. But guess what channel 9 did?
Not only did they stuff up when it was shown, but also
they cut nearly 15 minutes off it to fit in the ads!!
I think a few targeted emails/calls to the programing
department at 9 might do the trick. To show again one
of the most balanced documentary ever produced on the
Kelly Gang. Still the one...
Ellen
Quinn
From: Barbara Anderson [witches@world-net.co.nz]
04 Dec 03
I am trying to find Ellen Quinns' mother,
and brothers and sisters. Her father was James Quinn
b County Antrim, Ireland. Can someone help please?
Goodbye
and thanks
From: Brendan Pearse [brendan@nostalgia.com.au]
04 Dec 03
Hi Brad , I am writing to say thanks and goodbye.
I am bowing out of the Ned Kelly project and I wish
to say thanks for your support and the support of some
of your readers. Matt will be continuing the exhibition
with some new people.The exhibition will be reopening
very soon. The last few years have been very hard on
me and my very young family (a son 2 and a daughter
9 months) trying to find new Kelly relics and keep
coming up with fresh ideas, etc. Our last backers left
a lot to be desired so I have finally thrown up the
white flag. I wish you continued success with your
web site and I sincerely hope that Ned lives on and
on for many years to come. Kindest regards, Brendan
Pearse
Mary
Kirk
From: Phil [philipmaguire@australia.edu]
02 Dec 03
Brad, how you going? I noticed on Iron Outlaw
a statement about the outbreak in the north-east ending
with the marriage of Mary Kirk to the policeman, Robert
Graham. I was just wondering if you knew whether Mary
Kirk had any connection to the Kelly's - friend, relative
maybe? I ask because my great Grandmother, Catherine
Maguire (nee Kirk) from Dargo had a sister Mary and
some brothers who moved across into the north-east.
There are still Kirk's around Myrtleford and a number
of Irish families all interconnected in the Dargo,
Omeo, Bogong region including the McNamara's, Grays,
Kirks, Culhane's and so on. What interests me is the
story of Ned hiding out on the Bogongs after the raid
on Jerilderie. There's a bit of a legend that he was
on my alpine grazing property in the Bundarrah Valley
but I've always treated it as a myth. A very old Lady
from Corryong, Mary Peirce, was reported in the papers
a few years back claiming that Ned called at her home
and spoke to her mother when she (the mother) was a
girl. The papers reported the incident as happening
at Corryong but I spoke to Mary Peirce personally and
she told me it happened in the Bundarrah Valley in
a spot known as the Higgins paddock. At that time the
property was owned by the Callaghan family.The long
and short of it is that if Mary Kirk's family was involved
with the Kelly's, there is every chance that the Bogong
hideout story is true. If it was I could go on to speculate
that Ned and maybe George King were stealing horses
in the north-east and running them over the tops into
Gippsland for sale... maybe Ned was behind the legend
of the elusive Bogong Jack. That's probably a bit rich,
but an interesting thought, nevertheless. By the way,
the mountain at the eastern end of the Bundarrah Valley
is called Mt Ned. If you know anything about the Kirk's
I'd appreciate it if you could let me know.
History
Extension
From:
Ben Horne [lightingsistems@hotmail.com] 01 Dec 03
Hi, my name is Ben Horne and I am a year 11 student
about to start my HSC year. I am studying the history extension
course, and I have chosen to do my major work on the topic
of Ned Kelly. Hero or villain. I think your site is fantastic
I have been looking at it all afternoon, however I am struggling
to locate much evidence that ned was just a straight out
criminal. I have got some information on Edgar Penzig,
but I was wondering if there was any further information
or historians names you could send me. Thank you very much. Forget
Max Brown and Ian Jones — Edgar Penzig... now there’s
a real historian...
Channel
Seven Petition
From: Karen Fawcett [Karen_Fawcett@skillsoft.com]
01 Dec 03
My sister-in-law is very passionate about
this film being released to the public. Can you
let me know how she can add her name and comments to
the petition? Many thanks. Sorry,
like Channel Seven’s mind, it’s closed
Enquiry
From: Jacqueline Garlick
[garlickclan@austarnet.com.au] 01 Dec 03
Hi, i am wondering if you have a video of Besieged
the Ned Kelly Story to buy my mother seen
it on channel 9 yesterday and loved the story. Apparently
it was on Channel Nine at 2pm Sunday — the same
time that Channel Seven was showing the Davis Cup Final.
There’s a good programming decision...
Thankyou
From: Erin McSweeney [weeney@australia.edu]
29 Nov 03
Hi! I'd just like to say theat i think what
your doing is great! Ned Kelly is a real inspiratation
to younger kids. Thanks!
My
Opinion
From: Craig [shuter96@hotmail.com]
28 Nov 03
I think the kelly gang are all victims of
the corrupt system of victoria. it is bullsh*t the
way they were treated and if i were in their shoes
i would have done the same as they. now i have a tattoo
of ned kelly on my shoulder and people ask me why would
you get that for and what does it mean?.. well it means
to me strength and honour.. and above all that f*ck
all authority.. but why ned? why not joe byrne steve
hart or dan kelly? well they are all great people to
me but the fact that ned could of escaped from glenrowan
but dint he came back to try to save his mates and
family thats why.. now a lot of people havent even
heard of the others is only ned that anyone has heard
of .. that really annoys me cos the lot of them should
be acknowledged. No comment...
For
your viewing pleasure
From: Jacek Gonsalves [jgonsalv@liswa.wa.gov.au]
26 Nov 03
To view Gallery: members.iinet.net.au/~gonsaj/
I
took a photograph of Ned Kelly, got the costume and a few other props. Let
me know what you think, I had scanned some of your websites to get some main
ideas, its explained better in the link above. Click on GALLERY and
right below is the photo. The photo was for a portrait
competition but unfortunately the judges didn’t even pick it to be in the selected entries to be displayed!
Not that I’m complaining, I rather you all take
a look at it and thanks for all the information on
your website and the props :)
Ironoutlaw
Web Site
From: James G. Stewart J.P.
[jamesgs@nex.net.au] 21 Nov 03
Good evening. I hope that this website remains
a permanent part of web sites in Victoria as it is
a delight to be able to refer to this from time to
time so as to seek information on this historical subject.
Many thanks. I’m sure
Ned could have done with a sympathetic JP like your
good self...
Ironoutlaw.com
From: Barry El-Tahche [barry.el-tahche@db.com]
18 Nov 03
Hi Brad. I'd like to say what a great website on Ned
Kelly you have created and maintained. It is quite
hard to find a site that literally has it all. I have
spent the past day and a half going through the website
and still find there is so much more. I must say the
time and effort spent on your behalf has made it easier
for me to read about and understand even more about
the Kelly's. I have only recently become accustomed
to Ned, his gang and his family. I was staying down
in Milawa with my wife for three days. After visiting
the wineries and the local produce, we went for a drive
to Glenrowan. From that moment, I was just captured
by Kelly history. We visited the number of galleries,
souvenir shops, visited the sites of the siege and
yes, watched the animated theatre. This all just wet
the appetite. We had spent close to the whole day there!
We moved on to Tasmania after that - but thought of
stopping at Benalla to view the sash. We decided instead
to stop on the way back. And what an unfortunate decision
that was !! We visited Benalla on the way back and
the lady said they have taken it away to get restored
and won't be back till December! It is going to cost
about $10,000 - but we missed it! If we had gone to
Benalla on the way down, we would of seen it!! Anyway,
as I do want to further learn and understand more on
Ned, I wanted to ask what your opinion was on what
good Non-Fictional material, ie books, videos, dvds
you would suggest on purchasing (yes - I have seen
Ned Kelly with Heath Ledger which I have to give about
7/10 - the additional features on the DVD were great).
Even other sites to visit anywhere in the country -
am more than happy to travel!! Thanks for taking the
time to read my email and again, your website is undoubtedly
the best for all Ned Kelly information. Best Regards. Check
out our Tourism section
for places to see in Kelly Country
A
Ned Script
From: Aidan Phelan [angelathornton@optusnet.com.au]
14 Nov 03
I am currently working on a screenplay on
the life of Ned Kelly. Ned's life inspired me into
working in film as a career, now I am intent on writing
a screenplay. I would like some help on how to start
the film, (which is fact based!) and be able to keep
the film's main focus, the outlawry of the gang, within
two hours at least. Any help would be crash hot! Fact
based! Now’s there’s a first!
P.S. Did anyone else note the giant robotic flamethrower
characters in the film The League of Extraordinary
Gentlemen? Yes! They
looked very similar to a certain 19th century gang
of outlaws...
Red,
red wine
From: Sue Lynch [Sue.LYNCH@svhm.org.au]
14 Nov 03
Hello. I recently saw on the news about a release of
red wine bearing the label Ned Red. I wonder
if you were aware of it and where it could be purchased? Made
by Ferguson’s Wines in the Yarra Valley it
is a blend of reds from the region. Although, going
by most reports, it should have come out in a cask...
Ned,
of course
From: Michael Connors [Mick.Connors@bigpond.com]
13 Nov 03
I dont know if the Channel Seven petition
is still going, please add my name to it. Please put
it out on dvd. P.S. I think your site is grouse. I
think Channel Seven has forgotten all about us
re:
Quirk of fate
From: Jo [josedley@yahoo.com.au]
12 Nov 03
Sorry to be pedantic but they also didn't have eastern
standard time in 1880 so 10am, 11th November 1880 is
the equivalent of 11.20am in 2003. Either way, a great
man died but his spirit lives on. Lest
we forget
Quirk
of fate
From: Ben Collins [ben@ironoutlaw.com]
11 Nov 03
It's the 11th of the 11th today.
But what most people don't realise is that while
they're bowing their heads for a minute's silence
for the fallen soldiers, it was also the moment
123 years ago that Ned was hanged. “But Ned was executed at 10am,” I
hear you say. That's correct but of course they didn't
have daylight saving in Nov 1880, so 10am back then
is actually 11am today. But
they didn't have daylight savings in 1918 either...
Such
Is Life
From: Philip Maguire [philipmaguire@australia.edu]
09 Nov 03
G'day. Just wanted to congratulate you on the Iron
Outlaw site. What a great resource. Ned has been a
hero to me since I was a child and I've spent a lot
of time researching bits and pieces of his life...
while working as a journo with The Sunday Herald Sun
I wrote a few peices about him. Something that might
interest you is that The Age former theatre critic
claims, that on a visit to the London Museum in the
1960's, he saw the Declaration of The Republic Of North
East Victoria signed by Ned and others. Leonard says
that when he subsequently returned to the museum to
make enquiries the declaration had mysteriously disappeared.
Anyway, I no longer work as a journo... I'm also a
mountain Cattleman in the Omeo district and it's reputed
that Ned actually stayed at my property in the Bundarrah
Valley at one time. Whether true or not, it's a good
story. The Bundarrah is nestled in the eastern lee
of The Bogong High Plains, only a short ride across
the tops back to the north-east. Being of Irish descent
myself, naturally I'm interested in preserving the
Kelly legend, and in particular, answering slurs against
Ned's character which seem to be happening more often.
I'm definitiely not impressed with the Victoria Police's
ceremony at Mansfield. Recently I recorded a CD and
one of the songs is called Such Is Life. It's my contribution
to Kellyana I s'pose. I just tried to write a rollicking
ballad in the spirit of Ned's words about riding fearless,
free and bold. The lyrics follow here and if you're
interested I'd be happy to send you the song. Once
again, thanks for such a great site. Check
out the words to Philip’s song here at Such
Is Life
Thomas
Byrne
From: Chris Orchard [corchard@eurekatiles.com]
07 Nov 03
Just a quick letter to congratulate you on
your site... My name is Patrick “Chris” Orchard
and I'm from Ballarat in Victoria... My fathers uncle
was a man named Thomas Byrne and he hailed from Goulborn,
N.S.W... So i would have a guess that somewhere along
the line he was proberly a relative of Joe Byrne...
Dad said that he asked him once about the relationship
and his uncle replied that they thought they may of
been but it was never spoke about at home... Anyway
keep up the good work...
Release
Last Outlaw
From: Eddie Rogers [pintara@ozonline.com.au]
05 Nov 03
Ned was kept in prison until his death and now we must
stop the same fate happening to Last Outlaw. Set if
free and add my name to the petition.
Victoria
Police Uniforms 1880
From: Greg Blake [gregoryblake@bigpond.com]
05 Nov 03
I am currently sculpting a 54mm miniature
of a member of the Victoria Police ca.1880 and need
some advice from anyone who might be able to help me.
I am making my model with pistol drawn, but in all
contempary photos of police in uniform that I have
seen a chest cross strap is apparent but no pistol
holster is shown. This could be that I just haven't
looked hard enough, or it may mean such holsters were
not part of the uniform. Does anyone know how the police
carried their pistols at the time, or can someone put
me onto a source of illustrations/photos that show
the arrangement for holsters, if indeed they were used.
Thanks in anticipation. If
anyone can help contact Greg at his email address above
Jerilderie
Letter
From: Anthony Martin [superanto10@hotmail.com]
04 Nov 03
I am doing a report on ned at school and i am woundering
if you could send me the words of the jerilderie letter
i went to the victorian mesuem but that wasnt much
good to me please response ive never got a response
from one of these letters before! if you cant get the
same words from the letter just get the words from
the movie. Apparently there
is a page on this web site called “Jerilderie
Letter”. I wonder what it could be...
Greta
West
From: Nancye Hill [rapta@netc.net.au]
03 Nov 03
I am looking for information on the old Greta
West township and it's connections to the Kelly family.
Are you able to help?
Springhill Park Stud
PO Box 380
Wangaratta
Victoria 3676
Copper
William Phillips
From: Greg Phillips [GregoryPhilli2@hotmail.com]
02 Nov 03
Looking for some information on one Constable
William Phillips, who was at the seige at the pub.
Greta
Locations
From: the Kelly family [kellywlbm@ozemail.com.au]
28 Nov 03
I’m a fourteen year old enthralled in the Ned
Kelly legend. I sometimes go up to some of the Kelly
Country to have a look at the landmarks. But sometimes
we (my family) have difficulty finding the landmarks.
Soon ill be going up to Greta to have a look at the
homestead and powers lookout. Could you please give
me the locations if it isn’t any trouble for
you.
Stringybark
Commemoration
From: Dylan Webb [dylan.webb@vu.edu.au]
29 Oct 03
Recently, Commissioner Nixon lead a commemorative ceremony
to the 3 Victorian Police Force members who died at
Stringybark Creek. It was a fitting thing to do. Will
there also be a commemorative ceremony to the civilians
killed at Glenrowan? They rightly deserve to be acknowledged
as they too unwilingly gave up their lives. Nixon
wouldn’t be aware of any police related deaths,
even if they jumped up and bit her on her overly ample
backside. Just imagine erecting monuments to the hundreds
of Aboriginals killed by police over the last century
and a half... we’d run out of cement!
My
two cents worth!
From: Adam Taylor [adamtaylor35@optusnet.com.au]
23 Oct 03
As a young boy growing up (I am now 35) I was (and
still am) absorbed in the Kelly legend. It was either
'81 or '82 that my mother took me and my two sisters
down (from Woy Woy, N. S. W) to Glenrowan on the train.
My mother had arranged a 3 day stay at the motel and
the owners even picked us up at the station (Wangaratta)!
They even let Mum use their two door Celica. I had
watched the Last Outlaw when it was first screened
and sat back in awe!! (I have since got the entire
series, minus the ads, on two 4 hour video tapes, in
excellent quality!) I even had fore-sight to grab a
copy of the book that came with the series!! In primary
I played Ned in a play, so I was into it in a big way.
Forward 20 years to 2001, I was fortunate to finally
get to the Old Melbourne Goal. I was in heaven (excuse
the pun!) Visited Glenrowan and Beechworth again. It
was a classic case of time travelling as I had pictures
of myself taken in the exact-same-posistion/s as they
were taken 20 years earlier! I own a copy of Jagger's
portrayl on DVD. It still is a favourite. I say, thank
god for the Internet and if I can help anyone in regards
taping copies of the Last Outlaw on to VHS, then so
be it! Hope you never yawn reading this.
Need
info on Ned Kelly
From: Sage Yates [chickybabe48_2003@yahoo.com.au]
23 Oct 03
I am a student from christain outreach college brisbane
and would like some info on ned kelkly if possible
thank-you kind reguards. Let’s
start with English first...
Minutes
of Evidence
From: Craig Ackerly [CAckerly@cripps.com.au]
21 Oct 03
Could you please help
me in finding out where I can
obtain a copy and it's approximate
cost of The Minutes of Evidence
taken Before (the) Royal Commission
on the Police Force of Victoria. Original:
very expensive, 1960s facsimile:
not so expensive. Check out
some of the better second hand
booksellers
Ned
Kelly
From: Jess [jess_979_47@hotmail.com]
20 Oct 03
I have heard a lot of rumours that the movie was not
accurate to the truth so what really happened to Ned
and his gang... not to mention his family who apparently
were sentenced to hard labour? Okay,
enough of the lies and rumours. If you want to seriously
get to know Ned read our History section
then go out and borrow or buy one of the biographies
listed in our Book section.
Then it will all make sense
Lonigan
the coward?
From: Adrien Sweetman [sweetman@uq.net.au]
19 Oct 03
Was Thomas Lonigan the coward that sparked
off the so called murders of Stringy Bark Creek? Was
it the words from Ned Kelly in the street at Benalla
that made him take cover, leaving Thomas McIntyre standing
alone awaiting what he may have thought his last breath?
I feel this is an avenue in the Kelly Outbreak that
needs to be closely looked at. Does the actions of
Thomas Lonigan on that day spell disaster for two others
of the police party? It would be interesting to see
what your readers feel may of happened if Lonigan had
stood and surrendered?
Ian
Jones
From: Rosey [Flearulz@hotmail.com]
16 Oct 03
Hey im just wondering if any one knows whether (the
great) Ian Jones is moving to Beechworth to live? It
might be bullsh*t but being a Beechworthian I am very
exited at the idea that it may be true?? anyone know?? Just
rumours
The
Kelly Clan
From: Sozan Ashory [ash03@mwsc.vic.edu.au]
16 Oct 03
Hi there. i just wanted to now what happened to Ned
Kelly's family after when he died. so can you send
the answer for me please. thanks. Take
a read of a piece by Ellen Hollow, great great grand
daughter of Kate Kelly, here
Ned’s
Armour
From: Jess [jess_979_47@hotmail.com]
16 Oct 03
I’m very interested to learn about Ned’s
armour and the remains that are shown to the public.
Where is the armour now? Check
this section out
Life
and crimes
From: !ceman [pay02@mwsc.vic.edu.au]
16 Oct 03
I would like to have info on all crimes commited by
the Kelly gang, how many ppl they killed including
police, how much money was stolen by them, information
about Neds father, wot age he died etc... thanx. Then
start here
Ned
Kelly the movie
From: Jess [Jess_979_47@hotmail.com]
13 Oct 03
I heard that Ned Kelly the movie was suppose
to be really crappy yet i know at least 100 people
who absolutely loved it! Where do they come up with
the people that judge these movies? If they asked the
citizens i bet things would be diffrent... but i guess
they want things there own way. I
actually think, as a piece of Australian cinema,
the movie is quite good. It's the “flowering” of
the facts which has upset many people
Wanted
Poster
From: Garry Millward [garrymillward@hotmail.com]
13 Oct 03
I have recently found a Ned Kelly £8000 reward
poster which is exactly the same as the one on your
site but with a photo between the money and the info
on the gang. could you please advise on authenticity
many thanks. Leave it alone!
Not
so bad after all
From: Anne [swimfan_4eva@yahoo.com]
13 Oct 03
I've heared that a sh*t load of people dont like Ned
Kelly the movie and if you's thought that it couldnt
get any worse take a bloody look at Pearl Harbor both
movies are supposed to be based upon historical events
and yes one of them is... Ned Kelly. Pearl Harbor was
a bloody romance film so Ned Kelly wasnt so bad after
all! STOP DISSING IT!
Australian
Identity?
From: Michael Baker [bakersroom@hotmail.com]
13 Oct 03
What is Australia's fascination with Ned Kelly? How
has this fascination shaped and defined the Australian
culture, and hence the Australian identity? Years
ago I wrote an essay on a similar topic during my History
degree. Now, where did I put it...
Ned
is kewl
From: Bonnie Murphy [crazy_bitch12345@hotmail.com]
12 Oct 03
I think Ned was a ok guy evan though he did kill people
he was just defending himself, because really, he didnt
start of commiting crimes. And the Ned kelly movie
is wiked! Yes, wicked...
Site
From: Steve Morrison [chopper32@madasafish.com]
11 Oct 03
Excellent site. Well researched and discerning.
Keep it going.
The
Website
From: Calvin Foster [CAL_90@MSN]
09 Oct 03
Hi Brad, I think your site is the best
site on the Kelly story. It has every thing on it and
i just want to say congrates and every Kelly fanatic
(like myself) appreciates it. Well done!
Ned
Kelly Essay
From: Sam [pandora_vixen@hotmail.com]
08 Oct 03
Hi i about to embark on a
essay concerning the life of ned Kelly was he that
of a cold blooded outlaw or was he a nation's hero.
i was wondering if you would be able to help me in
find sources to support both claims. Thanks for any
help you will be able to offer me. Sorry,
this website is all about Ned Kelly — that
murdering, bloodthirsty thug...
Devlin
and or Harris
From:
Bill and Joan [geordies@chariot.net.au] 08 Oct 03
Has anyone any information on
Devlin and Harris of the Kelly Gang, one of which
we beleive was the blacksmith in the Kelly
Gang. We would much appreciate any information
anyone has. Is
this the “Australia A” side version of
the Kelly Gang?
Born
when?
From:
Bronson Burgoyne [bburgoyne2003@yahoo.com.au] 08 Oct
03
What is Ned Kelly date of birth? No
official record exists which states the exact birth date.
Historians are still divided as to the actual month. Ian
Jones favours December 1854 while Max Brown was inclined
to believe June 1855. In the near future, Bailup.com plans
to conduct indepth research on this very subject
Mum
From: Nick [TMdellis@bigpond.com.au]
05 Oct 03
Mum wont let me rent the Ned
Kelly movie. I don’t
blame her...
Dead
or Alive?!?
From: Grace [TMdellis@bigpond.com.au]
01 Oct 03
What the hell? I've visited a few sites over
the place and some of them say that Dan Kelly actually
wasnt killed at the Glenrowan showdown?!? What the
hell? And some of the sites say that Dan managed to
escape and lived a very very long life some where in
the country and the cops thought he was Ned so he was
arrested several times?!? Is this true or is it all
actually CRAP?!? Dan and
Steve died at Glenrowan. A few misguided fools, with
an eye for making some quick money, are trying to convince
us otherwise, but they would have better luck getting
the Beatles back together
Ned
and Butch
From: Leigh Varnham [ironoutlaw@varnham.com]
02 Oct 03
Was Ned Kelly really related to Butch Cassidy.
If so - how? If not - any ideas why this rumour started? No.
Why? I guess people just like to spread rumours
Senior
Constable Michael Kennedy
From: Matt Sumner [normasum@ozemail.com.au]
01 Oct 03
I too am getting sick of Senior Constable
Michael Kennedy's constant harping about his great
grandfather's watch. Perhaps it was a low act but I
hope someone points out to him someday that the less
than exemplary conduct of Flood, Fitzpatrick, and Steele
to name just a few, was pretty low as well. The police
never gave Ned's sash back to his family and Joe's
armour somehow found it's way to a private owner. Propping
Joe's body up on the Benalla lock up door like a trophy
of war was particularly unneccesary. No, the Victorian
Police Force hasn't got a lot to be proud of in regards
to the Kelly outbreak. Sergeant Kennedy's death must
have been shattering for his family and I can understand
some of his great grandsons feelings but a little more
balance and perspective on his part would be nice.
I'm sure Ellen Kelly cried just as hard for her lost
boys. Yes, it seems there
are too many people with rose coloured glasses when
it comes to certain events in Australian history...
Am
I on the right track?
From: Mogler, Justin [jmogler@newhopecoal.com.au]
01 Oct 03
Hi, I was just reading through your web site
and thought you might be the right people to ask. My
brother recently gave me a book called True History
of the Kelly Gang by Peter Carey. I have not been
able to put it down, I am hooked. I have decided to
go in search of more detail. I'm hoping that you might
be able to help me get started. Firstly, have you heard
of/read the above book? and if so, is it a true representation
of the story? Unfortunately through most of my life
I was taught that Ned Kelly was a thug and a villain
and didn't deserve the attention that he seemed to
get. As an adult I never gave it a lot of thought.
After reading this book (which I accomplished in 2
nights), I am determined to find out more. I cannot
believe that I have ignored this vital piece of Australian
history for my entire life (32 yrs, so far). I have
looked through your list of books and have contacted
my local library to see which ones they could source
for me. What other sources of Kelly information are
available? (i.e. Web sites, etc.) I have found plenty
of information that seems made up or ill informed,
I'm hoping to avoid as much of that as I can. I would
also like to ensure that I don't pass the same ignorance
onto my children as was passed onto me. Are there places
of interest that I could take my family to on holidays
to help them (and me) better understand the life and
unfortunate death of Ned Kelly? I appreciate that you
may be busy and unable to help out, and if that is
the case, please accept my thanks for your informative
web site. Stick with us and
you cant go wrong!
Setting
a newspaper article straight
From: Banjo [true_blue_22235@hotmail.com]
29 Sep 03
I don't know if you noticed this or not but a few weeks
ago in the Hearald Sun i found a article titled 'Setting
a legend straight'. It's promoting Blue Ribbon Day
and contains a brief interview with Sgt Michael Kennedy's
great-grandson Mick Kennedy. (from that shocker of
a documentry on Ned Kelly on ABC a month or so ago)
In this interview he says 'A lot of people are trying
to make a saint out of a bully and a buffon and a horse
thief, but it is pure fantasy'. Then it goes on to
say 'Sgt Michael Kennedy was one of 3 police-men slain
by Kelly's gang on October 26, 1878, at Stringybark
creek. A member of the Kelly clan stole Sgt Kennedy's
fob watch as he lay dying.' This is completely disgraceful,
not only have they used a word like 'slain' but they
seemed to have forgotten to mention that the Kelly's
killed in self-defence, they never would of resorted
to this horrible task if the police had just surrended
and not wanted to be heroe's which just ended in themselves
getting killed anyway. But what is truly disgusting
is stating that the Kelly's stole Kennedy's watch 'as
he lay dying'. Ned shot him in his chest after Kennedy
raised his arm in surrender but with the amount of
blood on Kennedy's arm and in the fading light mistook
it for the gun. Then as the poor Sgt lay dying in terrible
pain Ned did what any half decent human-being would
do and shot Kennedy dead instead of leaving him to
slowly die in complete agony. THEN, they only stole
the watch because like what Ian Jones and so many other
people have said now the Kelly's were outlaws so they
needed supplies, food, horses and especially watches
beacuse now time was everything. Then they left Kennedy
RESPECTFULLY, dead, with a cloak over his body. They
had not wanted to kill the troopers like the article
more then willingly suggests to the public. I understand
you probably already know this but i wanted to bring
the article to your and others peoples attention just
in case you didn't. PS I'm actually a 14 year old girl,
i'd show you my birth certificate if i could. Well
I think I believe your age now, seeing your gender
is female. Not too many 14 year old boys out there
with such an acid wit. I wonder if the police will
ever hold a memorial for all the innocent people they
killed over the past 150 years. The role call for the
Aboriginal population would be horrendous!
Leave
them alone!
From: Kate [kate_who@hotmail.com]
26 Sep 03
I was reading through the information you
have on Ned Kelly and what happened to him after he
was killed, I was absolutely disgusted to find out
that “after his execution his head was cut off
and the brain was removed and that Medical students
then dissected the body. The flesh was boiled away
from the skull, which was then shaved and oiled to
become a ghoulish souvenir”. This nearly made
me puke! And then I saw the picture of Joe’s
body hung up on the door of the Benalla lock up which
made thing worse. Why did this happen? Why werent they
left alone and buried properly? These men didn’t
deserve for their bodies to be put up on display or
to be disected, some people might think ohhh it’s
a great souvenior blah blah blah but after all the
sh*t they went through is a little peace too much to
ask for?!
Ned
Kelly the movie
From: Tiana [fastand_furious003@yahoo.com]
25 Sep 03
I just saw Ned Kelly the movie...and really
liked it...I've noticed that heaps of ppl think its
crap coss its not accurate with the facts....most of
the movie actually is....hope u ppl didnt expect it
to be totaly correct to every little detail because
no1 knows everything there's to know bout Ned Kelly
and no1 will ever know the whole story....The guy that
made Ned kelly tryed to make the movie as accurate
as possible and he wanted the audience to know that
Ned was a good guy who had real feelings and didnt
go round killing people for no reason...and thats exactly
what he made us understand... Yes,
I particularly liked the historically correct ending
to the last stand at Glenrowan. Seems men like Max
Brown and Ian Jones got it all wrong...
Read Sister
Kate
From: Banjo [true_blue_22235@hotmail.com]
21 Sep 03
G’day, remember me?? Haha
probably not, but anyway. After looking through
all your book reviews i noticed that you have
pretty much reveiwed every single fiction book
bout ned kelly and co on the market except probably
one of the best ones ever written bout him, (not
including 'Our Sunshine', which is like i said
before complete utter bullsh*t but a master piece
of Australian literature) called 'Sister Kate'.
It's fiction, lets just clear that up to avoid
having any more 'misunderstandings'and it explores
the life of Ned's younger sister Kate Kelly and
allows you to walk in the shoes of one of the
people left behind after the whole Kelly outbreak
and what the poor buggers were going through, it
also includeds a love affair between Joe Byrne and
Kate, which may leave you feeling rather randy (who
says you need porn, eh Brad?). It's written by another
great Australian author Jean Bedford, and is a very
moving piece though very thin, so, if you have rather
small gap on your Ned Kelly shelf in-between Ian
Jones's 'Ned Kelly' and the ornament of Ned in his
armour then this is the perfect thing to stuff-in
there. A FANTASTIC read leaving you crying for more.
P.S Can you go without saying any smart ass comments
this time Brad? There's a good boy... Hmm,
I think Ellen Hollow would have a word or two to
say about Jean Bedford’s book. Why fictionalise
Kate’s life? Why not write a great biography?
Besides Carey and Drewe, works of fiction rarely
get the chance of a second reprint. I have read “Sister
Kate” but feel free to put in your own review
as many of my readers have done previously. There’s
a good boy...
Leave
Robert Drewe alone!
From: Banjo
[true_blue_22235@hotmail.com] 19 Sep 03
I would just like to congragulate the maker of
this site (sorry mate, i forget your name) for such a ripper
of a site, but u have seriously pissed me off after reading
your report on Robert Drewe's Our Sunshine. Now
it dosen't take a Ned Kelly Einstein with a life-time worth
of research to back him up like Ian Jones (bloody legend!)
to realise that many of the events and a few characters
in Drewe's novel are a great load of smelly bullshit, but
his book isn't labled under Fiction for nothing. He portrayed
a marvoulous view for his readers into Ned Kelly's world
and what was going through the poor buggers head at the
time and the amount of detail included was mind-blowing
(not to mention a few bucket loads of those increadibly
rarely-used, interesting words which popped up farely regualy
which i had no idea what they meant, but, Hey! they sounded
good anyway!). Robert Drewe is one of the best writters
in Australia and one of my favourite writters of all time.
i have read his book more then 3 times and could read it
100 times more and still be left feeling full of the same
passion and inspiration i recieved from it the first time
i read it. i may be only 14 years old but i seem to know
a great writer and aussie icon when i see one, when people
like you who considered themselves the most wonderful things
to be brought to this world since slice bread cause you
have a website, books and god knows what else to boost
up your already large egos stand up on ur soap boxes and
shout down everyone else, well i think its about time someone
climbed up their and shouted you down, what do ya reackon?
And in answer to your question 'what is it with the lion?'
the lion is a symbol of how Ned Kelly is feeling, trapped
in a cage and no-where to go, pacing backwards and forwards
in nervous agony at whats going to become of it... sh*t,
you'd think a bloke with a big soap box to stand on and
a great long-running website like this would know that.
tut-tut-tut... Does Kelly's
core life really need to be fictionalised? What part
of his story needs flowering up? There are far better
books out there which deserve far more recognition.
That was why Gregor Jordan’s movie was such a disappointment to
so many people. And sorry Banjo, you are definitely not
fourteen — unless you are only counting leap
years!
re:
Mr. Miller
From: Sharon Hollingsworth [sharonandchuck@webtv.net]
16 Sep 03
Hi, Brad, First up, I would like to thank
you for the showcasing of my essay, Like
a Moth to the Flame. I am getting quite
alot of positive feedback on it. Next, I would like
to address the question of whether George Miller of
Mad Max fame was the same George Miller who worked
on The Last Outlaw.
It would seem it is not the same person, at least according
to the Internet Movie Database at us.imdb.com/name/nm0004305/
re:
Paint the town Ned
From: Trevor C [iceman@dragnet.com.au]
15 Sep 03
Great site. I am afraid that I have not logged
on for a long time and I forgot how good this site
was. I was very interested in reading Ian Jones' comments
regarding the recent documentary on television. I would
have to agree with him regarding Bantick. Few facts
and lots of publicity driven hype. I have just spent
an hour reading your feedback vault ( not all of it
just what I could fit in) and I have enjoyed myself
immensely. I am looking forward to being in Albury
to hear Ian and am wondering if any of you guys - yourself
or Dave or others will be there. I would like the opportunity
of saying g'day. Is this
the long lost legend Mr Cheeseman?
Mr.
Miller
From: Aidan Phelan [angelathornton@optusnet.com.au]
10 Sep 03
I was wathchin an episode of The Last
Outlaw the other day which my uncle had taped for me.
In the opening credits I believe that it said that
the associate producer was a man named George Miller.
Is this the same Miller that was responsible for the
Mad Max films and Babe? Seeing as you have the book
on the show Brad I was wondering if it said as much
in there. Mad Max and Ned
Kelly, now there’s a combination!
Armour
From: Oliver Le Lievre
[oalelievre@knox.nsw.edu.au] 10 Sep 03
My name is Oliver Le Lievre and
I go to Knox Grammar Prep School in Wahroonga
New South Wales. We have to do a project on Ned
Kelly and I am wondering what is the difference
between all the different armours the Kelly Gang
wore in battle. Check
out out Armour section
Was
Ned a Hero?
From: J Farr [jfarr77@eq.edu.au]
10 Sep 03
Can you tell me if you think Ned was a hero? Arr
these school kids are always trying to trick me!
Channel
7 Petition for The Last Outlaw
From: Andre van Schouwenburg
[outlawandre@hotmail.com] 08 Sep 03
I just want to find out how I can put my name
on the Channel 7 Petition for the Last Outlaw. If there
is no way for me to do it myself (on the internet,
etc), then could you do it for me. I hope The Last
Outlaw does get released. I was surprised that Channel
7 doesn't show it much anymore. The bosses in Sydney
never seem to authorise it. I hope it gets repeated
more often on Channel 7. They told me that they don't
actually have the rights for it. I think The Last Outlaw
is the best series I've ever seen. I'm a big Ned Kelly
fan. The petition is now
closed and the possibilty of the release of the Last
Outlaw is now in the hands of the Gods...
Re:
Paint the town Ned
From: Rosey [Flearulz@hotmail.com]
08 Sep 03
If you are in Albury you should definatly
go along to one of the events happenning this month
an throughout october too, all to do in some way or
another with ned kelly. also go and look at the tree
hangings in QE2 square coz sarah mcallister and i did
the first tree closest to the road, they are the t-shirts,
theyd look reall good if ppl would stop stealing them!!!
there is or was only 12 and 4 have gone in 3 days so
please just leave them there for a little longer. anyway
the whole thing should be good so try and go along
and see the nolan series or anything you want to... Ironic
isn’t it? Ned on display at a square named
after the Monarchy!
Banticks
Antics
From: Trevor Harbord [trevor.h@optusnet.com.au]
07 Sep 03
How could a major network or newspaper
justify giving a demented Loopy yellow spleened anti
Australian unfulfilled Ratbag like Christopher Bantick
airplay? I am totally stumped. His anti Kelly dementia
is bizzare in every way. Did Ned meet him in a past
life and steal his girlfriend? I hope so! If a documentary
(Outlawed) did not have a preconceived message
to get across they would have no need for so called
historians of his breed. Where does Bantick get
his info from? Like Ian Jones says present the
facts let the viewer decide for themselves. Not only
does Bantick present his angry opinion he inserts outright
lies within his dribble. The police profiler of The
Jerilderie Letter was a waste of time,
he is biast from the offset, being a trap and all.
The Stringybark shootings were portrayed as the
Walsh Street police killings (as if the cops were ambushed
and executed in cold blood). To the Producers of Outlawed shame
on you! Getting back to Bantick he is only given the
media time because he goes against the grain
and that sometimes sells papers. We desperately need
an open honest 3 or 4 hour doco with Jonesy or
similiar quality historian providing the content. Just
one last think on Bantick youre a cop tosser! LONG
LIVE NED!
Another
Museum Exhibition
From: Sharon Hollingsworth [sharonandchuck@webtv.net]
04 Sep 03
Brad, I am very impressed in how fast
you uploaded the info from the last tip I sent about
Albury! Good man! There is another museum exhibition
starting in Canberra in November of 2003 that might
also interest your readers called Outlawed! Bushrangers,
Rebels, Revolutionaries. They will have Joe's armour
and one of Ned's guns on display. Info here nma.gov.au/aboutus
Painting
the town Ned
From: Sharon Hollingsworth [sharonandchuck@webtv.net]
03 Sep 03
Brad, I thought that your readers might like to know
about Albury Painting the town Ned to coincide
with the Sidney Nolan Ned Kelly paintings being exhibited
there. Many events are planned and a talk is scheduled
on September 28 featuring Ian Jones. For more details
go to alburycity.nsw.gov.au/pub_whatson
Ned
Kelly
From: Angela [redhotangel_69@hotmail.com]
02 Sep 03
Hi my name is Angela, i dont know if you can help me
but i was wondering wether it was possible to buy any
of the old documentarys or movies about ned kelly.
I was also wondering wether you would know of any stores
in Melbourne that sell ned kelly items. thank you,
i look forward to hearing from you. Now
that the Exhibition has closed in Southgate you’ll
have to journey up the Hume to Glenrowan
Need
Information
From: Kathryn [baby_kitten_91@hotmail.com]
01 Sep 03
I go to a catholic primary school and my class is learning
about Ned Kelly and all of the things that he did in
his life. My class is acting out the Ned Kelly trial
where he is sentenced to death by getting hanged. My
person is Charles Smyth who was the prosecution lawyer.
I need to research him but I can't find any information
on him.if you know any info could you please write
to me?
Nolan’s
Ned Kelly
From: Warwick Morris [weandus@iprimus.com.au]
29 Aug 03
I have been drawing and sketching
Ned Kelly for a number of years now. I have only
recently come across the Ironoutlaw web site. It
is a fine site and has provide me with a wealth
of information both for my drawings and my knowledge
of Ned Kelly himself. I must say I am not a fan
of Sidney Nolan's Ned Kelly art, in some ways I
think it belittles and makes fun of the man Ned
and his story. But who am I to compared to the
great Nolan. As you say on your Soap Box page “I
have to vent my spleen” sometime and it feels
good too. Any way keep up the good work. “Show
me the paintings!”
Steve
Hart and Dan Kelly
From: Robert I. Hart [robert.i.hart@tafensw.edu.au]
25 Aug 03
I would like to tell you a family story about the shout
out at glenrowen that my gandmother and other elders
of my family told and that was that when the police
arived at glenrowen and the kelly gang where in the
inn ned told the the boys stev and dan that it was
all over and it was his fight and his alone so when
ned surposable left to tell the people to stay away
infact the whole kelly gang of stev dan and ned left
the inn and then ned went back to finish what he had
started after say his good bye's to stev and dan newspapers
reported the death of stev and dan and stev and dan
read of there death at my grandmother place in south
australia and of the capture and pending trial of ned
it took alot of argueing with dan and stev to stop
them from going back to try and help ned and making
him realise there was nothing they could do for ned
and they had to think of themself and the family before
they packed supplies and disappearing to a place unknown
to our side of the family. I do not know weather this
story is fact or fiction but it is something that my
family elders have said time and time again and there
is no variation in the story and all have gone to the
grave telling it and in the bit that is known about
that day it is not imposable that it may have some
truth .To me it is food for thought and i must add
i have not gone to much into this and there is a lot
more detail in the story told than what i have written
and can remember. This will
make Gary Dean very happy
Ned
Kelly
From: Lisa [cath@hotmail.com]
23 Aug 03
I know what Ned Kelly did was wrong and all but i know
he only did it because he wanted to protect his family.
If it were you would you let them walk all over you?.
I dont think so. He killed 3 police people but they
lied to get him in trouble. They could not find anyway
at getting him cought for anything so they framed him
for somthing he did not do. Me personley i know he
is not bad not bad at all. I dont know what you all
think out there. He did alot of good things as well.
If it were now he would have gotton off because he
was only protecting his family and himselfe. Well that
is my oppein ok keep up the great work guys and bye
bye. It’s all clearer
now
A
New Perspective
From: Vani [sweetytweety65@hotmail.com]
20 Aug 03
I am a high school student in Sydney who unwillingly
chose Ned Kelly as the subject of my History Extension
major project, as my teacher promised me there would
be many sources and much debate, especially following
the release of the Heath Ledger movie. I must admit
that I was not keen on the idea of doing my project
on Ned at the beginning. I had planned to research
Hatshepsut and ancient Egypt but material available
was quite limited. However this site has changed my
perspective. I watched the August 6 'documentary' as
one of my sources and was confused by it, as through
other sources, I remembered that Ned Kelly was supposed
to have killed Kennedy so that he would not suffer
longer, among other discrepancies. However I might
have taken it for granted, had I not come to this site
and read Ian Jones' critique. Thank you for a new perspective.
Why?
From: Zain [mrzen1991@hotmail.com]
20 Aug 03
Why didn't the police shoot ned kelly the
arms and legs when they could of when he was wareing
his armour? Why indeed
Do
your own homework
From: Rocket [scommet@hotmail.com]
18 Aug 03
I just wanted to say to all those people who
write asking for someone else to do their homework
to do it themselves, I would absolutely love it if
my school did any study on Ned or the Gang... Anything.
But they dont so your luckier than you think. Just
pick up a non-fictitious book or get on the net and
start reading, maybe put a little time into it and
you might actually learn something! Bye. I
swear I didn't write this
The
Last Outlaw
From: Netsgts [netsgts@yahoo.com]
18 Aug 03
How do I aquire a copy of the 1980 mini-series The
Last Outlaw. As I have asked so many different
outlets and they don't know what I am talking about.
There must be some way that I can aquire such a masterpiece
of Australian history?
Ned
did not kill Kennedy!!
From: Harrykim [harrykim01@optusnet.com.au]
12 Aug 03
On studying the first eyewitness accounts
of Kelly and Mcintyre, I find it not unreasonable to
conclude that Dan Kelly shot and Killed Kennedy. Not
Ned. Kelly stated he changed the fowling piece ammo
from shot to bullets. Kennedy’s autopsy shows
he died form shot at close range. Kelly stated Kennedy
fired at his brother Dan, then claims he shot at him,
resulting in him going after him. It could be that
Ned was covering for his younger brother Dan by owning
up to the killing. Ned also says he left Kennedy in
a dignified manor, “I put his cloak over
him and left him as honourable as I could, and if they
were my own brothers I could not be more sorry for
them”. Why would Ned then take the policeman's
Gold Watch? Has anyone else had similar conclusions? Compelling
argument...
re:
Movie Link
From: Sharon and Chuck [sharonandchuck@myfastmail.com]
11 Aug 03
Brad, the reports of the demise of the Ned
Kelly the Movie website were greatly exaggerated!
It had been down for a few weeks but has just come
back online. Also the latest I have read about the
movie coming out here in the United States is March
19, 2004. Can only hope for an earlier release!
Lecture
by Chief Justice of Victoria: Kelly Trial
From: Brian Lamb [baslamb@hotmail.com]
11 Aug 03
I attended the lecture at Kilmore Court House
on Sunday, 10th August where an audience of standing
room only heard the Chief Justice of Victoria, John
Phillips, present a lecture on the pro's and con's
of the trial of Ned Kelly. It was interesting to note
that despite the overwhelming evidence that Ned acted
(in part) out of self defence in the shooting of Lonigan,which
with good defence counsell should have resulted in
McIntyre's perjured evidence being exposed and a lesser
charge of Manslaughter perhaps pursued against Ned,
this learned man of the 20th century still feels that
the resultant outcome of Death by hanging was inevitable-
From the instant of Fitzpatrick's false-hood Ned was
a condemmed man and that remains the most undeniable
fact. I didn’t even
know this event was on!
re:
Of course the email is about Ned
From: Philomena Mango [kolemangof@bigpond.com]
10 Aug 03
Hello again, I was wondering if you know of
any views that support the idea that Ned Kelly is not
a hero? Do you know of any famous quotes that suggest
he is not? Famous quotes?
Well you could read up on any of the senior police
and judiciary at the time and they would tell you an
entirely different story. Or you could have watched
the recent ABC documentary and listened to that moron
Christopher Bantick
Ned
Kelly Armour
From: Dora and Bruce Neilson
[b.neilson@datafast.net.au] 09 Aug 03
Thank you for supplying such a good web site
but the only thing I find missing is the actual size
and dimensions of Ned's Armour. Could you please
supply me with this as I am very interested as well
as maybe publishing this on your site. Another thing
I have noted is that a back view of the armour is also
not supplied and I would be interested to view this
also. As soon as you get
that information feel free to send it to me so I can
put it up on the site
re:
Ned Kelly Documentary on ABC
From: Sharon and Chuck [sharonandchuck@myfastmail.com]
08 Aug 03
Brad, even without seeing this documentary
on Ned Kelly, I can tell you who Christopher Bantick
is. You or some of your readers might recall the remarks
Mr. Bantick made in a disturbingly titled newspaper
article The Real Ned Kelly Was Nothing But a Colonial
Terrorist published earlier this year. It included
tripe such as calling Ned a "thug" and then
went on to speak of "Kelly's short and malevolent
life" and that "he had planned for Glenrowan
a Bali-type massacre." Christopher Bantick clearly
showed a decidedly anti-Kelly public stance way before
the airing of this documentary. Bantick
is a journalistic terrorist!
Rock
n Roll tribute for Ned
From: Melissa and George Edwards
[edwardsfamily@tsn.cc] 08 Aug 03
Is the rock n roll tribute for Ned
album finished can you buy it. I think Daryl J Melbourne
is involved with the album I'm not sure. Does anyone
know about it. I've heard
a few tracks and they sound great with the likes of
Dave Gleeson on vocals but last I heard Melbourne had
hit some financialo snags. As soon as it is released
we will do a review.
Ned
Kelly Documentary on ABC
From: Mick Fitzsimons [mickfitzsimons@hotmail.com]
08 Aug 03
I have just watched Outlawed:
The Real Ned Kelly, that featured on the ABC.
It was a bit hard to know where they were going with
it. On one hand they explained the injustices which
helped shape Ned and then on the other they made outrageous
statements like the gang were heavily armed at Stringybark
Creek and they murdered (unlawful, premeditated
killing of a human being) three policemen. Then they
show that moron, Christopher Banter (sorry Bantik,
banter was what he did), who obviously has never read
any decent material on the subject (and there was plenty
written by police that incriminated themselves) or
done any real research. The criminal profiler who was
featured, also shows an obvious lack of knowledge on
the subject and one would have to question his use
of modern day criminal minds to compare with poor simple
people of 150 years ago, how they lived and the hardships
they faced. The descendant of Sergeant Kennedy asked
why the gang didn?t simply move on when they found
the police camp. Again, this remark shows a lack of
knowledge of events on behalf of the speaker. What
started out looking like a good doco, shot itself in
the foot. And might I add, that irritating Irish accent
depicting Ned was a real turn off. I ask you, how much
can a koala bear? Took the
words right out of my mouth! And who is this Christopher
Bantik, up till Wednesday night I've never even heard
of him? Ned
Kelly
From: Ebba Castley [twinkletoes_au@hotmail.com]
08 Aug 03
My name is Ebba and I really need some info
about Ned Kelly for a project that is due very soon.
Could you please tell me things about him such as why
was he hanged, what happened to him family, just things
like that. Thankyou sooo much. Yours Sincerely Ebba. Just
things like that? I think you should read our History section
Movie Link
From: Sandy McGivern [s.mcgivern@kingscollege.school.nz]
07 Aug 03
I'm trying to get to the Ned
Kelly movie site, using the link I found when
reading your site, but it won't let me in without
a password. Isn't
this the official movie site you've linked to? What
password do I need? And why does anyone need one anyhow? Looks
like www.nedkellythemovie.com is off the air and they
didn’t even wait for the DVD release or the USA
opening in December! UIP must have realised they could
never compete with us...
Beseiged
From: Bernadette Nester
[alex26@dodo.com.au] 06 Aug 03
Okay, okay. So I really have two questions.
I have not long finished watching The Big Pictures
version of the Ned Kelly story and it has left
me a tad miffed. Why, why, why, do people not get
the point of Ned Kelly's battle for fighting the
good fight of freedom, equality and loyalty? I
digress. My other question was, where would I get
my hands on a copy of the movie Beseiged to watch? No
idea as to the Beseiged doco but I wouldn’t
be parting with dollars until you saw it. Not that
it was as bad as the Big Picture doco...
Petition for Reprieve
From: Melanie Dawes [melsie23@optusnet.com.au]
06 Aug 03
I was just wondering if the petitions
for reprieve were ever kept and stored any where
for later reference... I would be interested to
go through the names... I've seen the 1 page in
the Documentation section of this website - but
want to find more... Any Ideas? Yes,
try the Victorian Public Records Office
Webley Colt
From: Steven Thumwood [thummy@kisser.net.au]
05 Aug 03
Hi, would you be able to tell me the
exact modle of the Webley Colt that Ned Kelly used
at Glenrowan? Ned used a
.31 calibre pocket Colt revolver at the beginning of
his Last Stand. Once its five shots were fired, he
was unable to re-load. During the Jerilderie hold-up
Ned took a .36 calibre Colt Navy revolver from Senior
Constable Devine. When Ned fell at the end of his Last
Stand, it was wrenched from his hand by railway guard,
Jesse Dowsett.
Heath Ledger Film
From: Jesse Lee Baker [Bushwhakr54@aol.com]
01 Aug 03
Sirs, I would like to inquire
how I might obtain a copy of this film about
Ned Kellystarring Mr. Ledger. I can’t
seem to find it here in America. I have been
a Kelly fan since I was a teen. I hope you
kind folks can help me. Yes,
it will finally be released in December 2003 or you
can buy a region 4 DVD fom one of Australia’s
online shops from 20 August
Questions
From: Amanda [amandacham@hotmail.com]
31 Jul 03
Hi! my name is Amanda! I am a year 7 student! Our
school is doing a project about Ned Kelly! Could
you please help me out for my question! 1. Is Ned
Kelly a Hero or Villain? (only a few point for
each) 2. What did bushrangers actually do? Sorry!
I’m too busy! But maybe someone else would
like to answer your questions! You can email Amanda
at the address above!
Ned on the ABC next Wednesday, 6 August
at 8:30
From: Scot McPhie [scot@mango-a-gogo.com]
30 Jul 03
Saw an ad for it last night. It'll be on the ABC
next Wednesday at 8:30pm. Is it the same documentary
as the one on the Foxtels National Geographic Channel? Yes
it is
The Armour.... Again
From: Thomas Whiteside [swhiteside@netscape.net.au]
29 Jul 03
Hi me again, sorry to keep bothering you but I
just love your site! Regarding Dan and Steve's
armour in the Whitestuff you say it's very hard
to tell which was Dan's and which was Steve's because
they were pulled from the burnt inn in pieces.
Maybe a way to tell would be size, which suit would
have fitted each man the best. Now
that's thinking!
Re: I wore
Joe Byrne’s helmet
From: Lola Rowe [lola@winnet.com.au]
28 Jul 03
To the pseudonym of the name of Llama, what a shame
that given your such strong views you cannot sign
your given name.
Bronwyn Binns Obituary
From: Sharon Hollingsworth [sharonandchuck@myfastmail.com]
28 Jul 03
Hi, Brad. If any of your Aussie readers can get
a backcopy of The Quadrant magazine, dated
June 2003, they can read a nearly 3000 word biography
and obituary of Bronwyn Binns (the late Mrs Ian
Jones). Quite fascinating reading.
Ned’s
Armour
From: Andrew Bodley [Andrew.Bodley@armouries.org.uk]
28 Jul 03
Hi, I work at the Royal Armouries
museum in Britain. The Royal Armouries is the
National Museum of Arms and Armour and was
originally in the Tower of London. We opened
a new museum in 1996 in Leeds, which has a
department on interpreters who's job is to
bring the collection to life. This ranges from
medieval jousting to soldiers experiences in
Bosnia. We have planned for September an event
based around “Outlaws”.
One of the interpretations we will be performing is
on Ned Kelly. As such I have to make a copy of his
armour. Is there anywhere that has photographs of his
armour from all angles and dimensions and weights?
I have found your web site very useful and also the
State Library of Victoria has some dimensions and information
but only front on photographs. Any help or ideas of
where I can find this information will be appreciated. The
State Library of Victoria had a recent exhibition which
displayed a full 3D computer graphic depiction of Ned's
suit mapped from the original so the author would have
all the exact details. You can try chasing it up from
the website and get a look at the impressive work in
question at:
statelibrary.vic.gov.au/slv/exhibitions/kellyculture/armour.html
Of course the email is about Ned
From: Philomena Mango [kolemangof@bigpond.com]
26 Jul 03
Hello. First of all you have a most informative
website. I am a student studying Australian History
and beforehand knew very little about Ned Kelly.
Now that doesnt make alot of sense seeing as though
I am currently getting an education within Australia
and we do not get taught anything about a national
icon. However, I was wondering if someone could
give me hand with a study I am currently doing.
I am posing a question for an essay I have to do
which is along the lines of “To what extent
do sidney nolan's Ned Kelly series of paintings
depict Ned Kelly as a hero or villain?” What
do you think of this question and also do you know
of any good sources I could use in relation to
this question? Do you know of an alternate question
I could do? You see I want to pick a question which
is slightly different to the normal questions asked
and thought someone who actually runs a Ned Kelly
website may be the best person to ask. If you do
not want to help me I understand, but do you know
of anyone I could write to who would be happy to
give me a hand? Any Kellyites
out there eager to give this student a hand feel
free to write to her at kolemangof@bigpond.com
Would like
your opinion on “House
near Glenrowan”
From: Peter Young [lionsden@getonit.com.au]
25 Jul 03
source: users.westconnect.com.au/~ianmac3/Kelly.htm
Saw this while surfing for Ned, I have read alot
of Kelly history yet I have never heard that Ned
and Dan supposedly built a house together near
Glenrowan, I would appreciate your opinion on the
matter, please find page address above. "Farnley" at
Cesney Vale, a pink granite house, was built by
Ned in 1875-6 with the completion date carved by
Ned in one of the granite blocks. Dan had nothing
to do with the structure
Heath Ledger DVD
From: Aidan Phelan [angela_thornton@optusnet.com.au]
25 Jul 03
I was just checking around the web
and I found a release date for the Heath Ledger DVD
for all those interested. It is to be released in shops
for purchase on Wednesday August 20 and will retail
at about $40 Australian. Extra features include a documentary
on Ned and his influence of Aussie culture and a short
film of the premiere. Hey,
you might see me and Harold from Neighbours in the
short film!
Ned Documentary
From: Anthony Smit [aezlove@aol.com]
25 Jul 03
Just letting everyone know who has Foxtel that
there is a Ned Kelly
documentary on the National Geographic Channel
on the 6th August at 8.30 pm. Dont
miss it, it should be good.
Re: Ned Kelly magazine
From: Brian McDonald [brianmac@isp.net.au]
22 Jul 03
The magazine was published around 1962. As you
can see it is made up of short stories about several
bushrangers including Ned. Be wary though, quite
a few mistakes and previous authors' errors have
been perpetuated throughout.
Re: I wore
Joe Byrne’s helmet
From: Paul O'Keefe [okeefe@smartchat.net.au]
21 Jul 03
I
cannot believe the outburst by Llama with his opinion
of what occurred at the Commemorative weekend.
Well Llama the buck stops with me. I was the one
who had the honour to carry in Joe Byrne's armour
and to help assemble it. I was the one who placed
the helmet on people's heads, the majority being
young school children. I did it not out of "disgusting
self indulgence" as you described, but out
of hope that this might inspire some of them to
take interest in one of the greatest stories of
Persecution, Bravery and Injustice in our countries
brief white history. I told each person how special
they were to be present and to remember this moment
forever and its something to tell their grandchildren
about this. I take offence in the way
you made it out to be somehow a gawking unemotional
experience. Never for one minute did I loose sight
of the fact that this historic piece once belonged
to an amazing young man who was killed wearing
his body armour. I was there as many others were
to honour the memory of Ned, Dan, Joe and Steve
and to remember the tragic circumstances that took
place some 123 years ago. Some of us present Llama,
lost family members on that terrible night.
Whether people believe it was wrong or right is
irrelevant, I did it with the best of intentions
and I stand behind what occurred. I won't tolerate
any unjust comments from someone who wasn't present
to witness what actually happend and the circumstances
in which they occurred.
Paul O'Keefe
Steve Hart's Great Great Nephew
Etty Hart's Great Great Grandson
Ned Kelly magazine
From: Judith Smyth [judiellen59@hotmail.com]
21 Jul 03
Hello. I have a magazine called Ned
Kelly and the days of the Bushrangers the price
on it is 2'6. Inside I found an ad that said it was
printed and published by Southdown Press. Does anyone
know anything of this magazine? I’ll
have it!
History project
From: Erin Sharp [erin_sharp03@hotmail.com]
21 Jul 03
Mr Webb, I am a year 12 student doing
an Extension History research project on Ned Kelly
and the legends and myths surrounding him. I have
found your website so helpful in every aspect of
my project so far and was wondering if it was possible
for you to give me some advice, tips or information
on anything regarding Ned. My project is concerned
somewhat with the historiography of Ned, how he
has been protrayed by history writers over the
years since his death. I am currently reading my
way through Ian Jones' A Short Life and
I can see that he is quite sympathetic towards
Ned. Do you know of any writers who are not? It
seems to me that the majority of the Australian
public regard Ned as the national hero, especially
after the release of Gregor Jordan's Ned Kelly.
Would you agree? Any information at all would be
helpful. If you can find the time to respond to
this e-mail I am very grateful. Mr
Webb, I like it! Virtually every book written prior
to J J Kenneally's "Inner History of the Kelly
Gang" (first published 1929) was anti Kelly.
All the major police named in the 1881 Royal Commission
tried to blame away their lazy actions through
publishing their "true" accounts. "The
last of the bushrangers" by Francis Augustus
Hare is a prime example of a disgraced policeman
trying to clear his name. So take a look in one
of the major libraries, you'll be surprised and
alarmed at what you'll find.
Opinion on the Heath Ledger Kelly Movie
From: Lynelle Crawford [lynelle_crawford@msn.com]
20 Jul 03
Hi Brad. I'm just throwing in my five
cents about the latest Kelly movie. In my opinon
the less you know about the the true facts concerning
the Kelly Gang, the less you will pick the movie
to pieces. I don't put the acting in the movie
down, it is the story line that bothered me. It
had a pretty lame ending and in places it was far
from the true facts. A lot of what I know of Ned
Kelly comes from Ian Jones' book. A
good place to start
Re: I wore
Joe Byrne’s helmet
From Ben Collins [ben@ironoutlaw.com]
18 Jul 03
Llama… Am I addressing
a man or a member of the camel family? At least
I have the courage of my convictions to put
my name to my statements, rather than hide
behind a pseudonym. Whatever the case, it certainly
seems that the Queensland sun has sizzled your
cranium. I resent being referred to as a weed – maybe
that’s your vice of choice. Especially coming
from a bloke who I’ve never seen at a Kelly function.
Don't get me wrong, I can handle criticism. But when
it deteriorates to name-calling I just couldn’t
just bite my tongue for fear that some people might
actually take what dribbles from the llama’s
mouth, besides foam, as gospel. (‘The Gospel
According to the Dalai Llama.’) I think your
main problem, among others, is jealousy. You can’t
tell me that if you had the chance, you wouldn’t
wear Joe Byrne’s helmet. Don’t kid yourself.
You’d be in for that kind of ‘self-indulgence’.
Heck, your gob-off session in this feedback section
was nothing if not self-indulgent. I know a few people
who only have a passing interest in the Kelly Gang
but would love to know what it's like to wear one of
the helmets. By writing a story about it, I was sharing
the experience with readers. That’s hardly ‘selfish’.
I admit that Joe's helmet – or ‘hat’ as
you ridiculously termed it – was flaunted by
a select few last year, and I too was disgusted. This
year was much different though. If you had been there,
llama, you would know. By the way, you referred to
the dinner as a ‘centennial’ event. Enlighten
me. What happened in the Kelly saga in 1903? But aside
from all of the above, it’s good to see that
you're actually checking out what a real website is
about. I checked yours out. I won’t get those
90 seconds back. And a little hint: use the spell-check
before you send a message into cyberspace. Incorrect
spelling doesn’t do much for our perception of
your intelligence. Guess
the llama’s been “pegged” (that’s
a camel related joke). I've actually deleted the original
email from the bloke 'cause he's such a wanker! If
he wants to whine he can do it on his own site.
The
Kelly Gang
From: Marilyn Reid
[CROC5@bigpond.com] 16 Jul 03
Hey Brad, I’ve just made the
Kelly Gang for my specially designed Ned Kelly room.
Thought you’d like tom see a photo. Amazing what
you can do with cardboard and pipe cleaners!
Peter Carey
From: Emily Eltringham
[tabluca@hotmail.com] 08 Jul 03
Unfortunately I was introduced to Ned and his Gang
through Peter Carey's The True History of the
Kelly Gang, (which I now know is a piece of
fiction!). I really enjoyed it, as I knew very
little of their history, but would like to thank
you for your excellent site that has opened my
eyes up the facts, particularly that Peter Carey
had a thing for transvestism! I am now looking
forward to spending many hours exploring the site,
and learning more about the TRUE histroy of the
Kelly Gang from a more reliable source. Thank you! Come
back soon
Blood in the Dust
From: Lola Rowe [lola@winnet.com.au]
04 Jul 03
Hi to you Brad. I am trying to find on your site the book mentioned on my Seige
Dinner menu, that Angeline Baron had been working on. It was a good night and
I enjoyed meeting people and putting faces to the names. Yes,
Angeline’s new book will be titled “Blood in the Dust” and
what I've seen so far it will be a bloody good read. Take a sneak peek in our Books section |