An
award for your newly redesigned site
From: A Baron [angeline@ozramp.net.au]
23 Dec 00
My congratulations on your newly designed site. It is
even more user friendly than previously, with navigation
a breeze. I notice that it uploads faster than before
too. Thank you for continuing to list a link to my site at
Victoriana Australia. For your interest, I shall be
adding an analysis of Joe Byrne's hand writing in the
new year. I shall let you know when it is up and running.
I am enclosing an award for your site. I notice that
you do not display awards in your site, but here it is
anyway. It is one of the best sites on the web, and I
am very grateful that you take such pains to maintain
it. Well done, Brad. Good luck and best wishes for 2001.
re:
T. H. Cameron
From: Ros Taylor [rost@waterfront.net.au]
21 Dec 00
I am sending the letter to you as an attachment.
Oh by the way he was 16 at the time of the letter. See
the T.
H. Cameron letter in our Writings
section
T.
H. Cameron
From: Ros Taylor [rost@waterfront.net.au]
20 Dec 00
I have a copy of a letter written by my Great father-in-law,
to his brother, about how he was captured by Ned
Kelly and held in the pub with other members of the
community. If you would like a copy I would gladly
send it to you. Please
do
Congratulations
From ARM [republic@ozemail.com.au]
19 Dec 00
Nice site.
Jim Jerrie
Australian Republican Movement
Level 10, 60 Park Street, Sydney NSW 2000
PO Box A870, Sydney South NSW 1235
Phone (02) 9267 8022
Fax (02) 9267 8155
Toll Free 1800 80 2000
Web republic.org.au
Bullet
Wounds
From: Llew Pointon [llew@nzlamb.co.nz]
18 Dec 00
My name is Llew Pointon and I am trying to find out
how many times Ned was shot during the shootout at
Glenrowan. Various articles, books etc have differing
numbers with 19 and 28 being the most popular. Hoping
you can assist. Also liked your site. Very informative
and a lot of interesting material.
As
many books on Ned as possible
From: John Taranto [sonicboom@one.net.au]
13 Dec 00
Gday mate, I would love to get as much books on Ned
as posible. Could you point me in the right direction
to get the books Im missing. I have:
A
Short Life
The Friendship that Destroyed Ned
True history of the Kelly Gang
Ned Kelly after a Century of Acrimony
And
I would also like to know if I can get wanted or
reward posters. I have just got a copy of the Argus
from April 17 1878 and it has an article for the
whereabouts of Ned and Dan and that has to be the
best thing I own. Hope to hear from you soon and
your site has to be the best one if not the best
on the net, keep up the excellent work... seeya
Ive
just read about Steve Hart
From: Dylan Webb [dylan.webb@vu.edu.au]
28 Nov 00
Last year I picked up a paperback in a second
hand store here in Melbourne titled :'Bush Doctor'
by a Dr. Powers who had worked as a young medico
in the western districts of the Darling Downs at
some obscure country town (I still have the book
and can be a little more accurate later if you
so wish).This was some time in the 1930's (?) In
the account of his stay in the town, he makes reference
to town lore of a recluse whom common consent had
it that this person was quite probably Steve Hart.
Some one from Victoria who had met Steve Hart maintained
that "if it wasn't Steve, then it's his twin brother".
This character had a habit of always being armed
and somewhat elusive. At one time he gave advise
to a young local as to what one should do when you
wanted to kill someone. It is also interesting that
Roma and Dalby are not far away. As his mate Dan
Kelly is probably lying somewhere on a Darling Downs
station (information which would not have available
to Dr. Powers) it might be possible that the two
had the occassional contact in their latter years.
Jerilderie
Letter
From: Mark Shone [mshone@bigpond.com]
26 Nov 00
Today in our local area paper the Sunday Geelong
Advertiser there is a full page of the Jerilderie
letter, only part of it next week there is more.
I don't know wether this HAS been an on going series
or not as I don't get the paper normally on Sundays.
I was wondering if you would like a copy of it for
the site? My scanner is out of action at the moment,
is there any way of getting it to you Fax, Postal
address? It's been great that the interest in Ned
has had a new injection of life since peter Carey's
book was released. Incidentally I went to the book
launch on 26th. October, ironic 120 years to the
date of Stringybark Creek. It made me wonder when
Peter Carey was asked if that date meant anything
to him and he drew a blank. I will leave that thought
with you for you to make up your own mind? Web sit
up date? Last outlaw movie news? Will log in again
soon. Keep up the good work.
Ned
Kelly, never a hero, never will be
From: Maliko [cmaliko@netspace.net.au]
25 Nov 00
Ned Kelly was a villain
and should be known as one. There is no excuse for what he
did. There are other ways of going about things then taking
the law into your own hands. Anyone who is intelligant enough
will understand. NED KELLY, never a hero, never will be. Intelligant?
Ned
Kelly Exhibition
From: Barry Andrews [barryandr@yahoo.com.au]
24 Nov 00
As luck would have it, I finally tracked the web site
down and it's an exhibition which has just been opened,
so that explains why it was hard to find. Being an
exhibition, I guess it won't be there for ever. I enjoyed
reading the letter so much I decided to download it.
That whole part of the exhibition came to a surprising
6MB but was worth every bit of it. I enjoyed your web
site so much, I've uploaded this material, all properly
linked, to my public files area at netdrive.com/~barryandrews and
since we're both fans of Ned I'm happy for you to download
it as a zip file from there for personal enjoyment.
Naturally State Library copyrights apply to the commercial
use of any of this stuff. I'll probably leave it on
there for a couple of weeks. Any feedback would be
appreciated. There's also a letter about it in today's
Age Friday 24th November.
Ned
Kelly Exhibition at the State Library of Victoria
From:
[CHerman@slv.vic.gov.au]
24 Nov 00
For further details about Ned Kelly at the State Library
of Victoria click here for information on the Armour and
here for information on the Jerilderie
Letter
State
Library
From: Nicky Cowie [nickycowie@today.com.au]
24 Nov 00
I guess you've heard that the State Library has finally
bothered to accept the Jerilderie
Letter, and intends to display it -
yay. Any clues as to who the anonymous donator was?
So a trip to the State library is definately on the
cards for me - and thanks for the tip re:the royal
comm.report. What's the story with Dave having three
copies? (Not a worry - I'm sure they are in safe
hands). How often do you update the site? I get a
bit of a buzz every time I find something new to
read in there. Don't worry I know it's probably hardwork
keeping up - rest assured it's appreciated. Is Ian
Jones a bit of a recluse? He seems not to be contactable?
There
is a book shop in Beechworth that now specialises
in Ned memorabilia - I was up there a few weeks ago
and picked up a perfect copy of The Authentic Illustrated
Story, and a hardback copy of The Inner History (it
is undated, but printed before the addition of Jim
Kelly's letter of thanks in the latter paperback
copies) so I am very happy for now. No doubt I shall
return before too long for more treasures. Have you
got any feedback in general, (or more interestingly)
personal views, as to the way Ned was portrayed in
the opening ceremony of the Olympics?
Informative
and interesting
From: Brian Day [brianday@bigfoot.com]
23 Nov 00
I found this site informative and interesting. I agree
to some extent that kelly was a victim although he
must of also been a rogue. If he had been alive today
he probably would have still ended up in gaol. However
most of the photographs would not download and i got
only blank boxes which was disappointing. If
he was alive today he wouldnt have been harassed by
the police. As for your internet problem it all boils
down to skill and knowledge. Try surfing with a newer
browser. They are free download...
Peter
Carey: friend or foe?
From: Simmone
Croft [croft@nt-tech.com.au]
18 Nov 00
I have been reading about
ned kelly for the last 27 years and love his story
of his life.What a remarkable person he was and australian
too. I stumbled across this site and was amazed and
I am pleased to say thankyou to the people that keep
his image alive. I lost my collection of books and
collectables in the Katherine floods in 1998 and was
so pleased to see what i can still buy through the
enternet. I have just finished the book that Peter
carey wrote and loved the image he puts across of Ned.
A good read.
Amazed
at this site
From: Mark Shone [mshone@bigpond.com]
16 Nov 00
I am amazed at this site.
i have only just got on the net and as a keen
Kelly reader/collector i thought i would check
it out. so far it is tops. thanks. gota go more
info to look at. keep up the good work. Oh can
you help with getting a copy of the last outlaw
and the ned Kelly historical society?
Supreme
Court Legal documents
From: Phil Sparnenn [sparnenn@pclc.com.au]
16 Nov 00
G'dayI'm
a cartoonist based in Melbourne. I've also started collecting
old documents letters, legal, diaries, anything from
the 1800's. My idea was to save them from the dump, research
them, keep the ones I was interested in and maybe sell
others to supplement my cartooning income. So far I haven't
been able to let any go! The reason for the email is
I've just researched a batch of Supreme Court Legal documents
from about 1859-1870.
I
found a fair few historical figures in them or their
signatures. Everything from early premiers of Vic
to the commissioner of gold fields during the Eureka
uprising. The historical figures I've found so far
that relate to the Ned Kelly story are Redmond Barry
and Louis Ellis. I have writs issued by Barry, with
the supreme court stamp, and writs issued and signed
by Louis Ellis, and also a 2 page hand written writ
signed by Ellis. Ellis and Rede, served the death
warrant on poor old Ned, then led him to the gallows.
As collectibles do you think Kelly enthusiasts would
be interested in them? Just another question in the
litho of Ned on the gallows (I think it might of
appeared in the Age or Argus) do you know left to
right who the people are?
More
than passing interest
From: Jack Ryan [jackryan@optusnet.com.au]
12 Nov 00
G'Day, Have always maintained
a more than passing interest in Bushranging. Observing
not practising! In Ned's case I believe he was a
victim of Victorian bureaucracy!The Colonel Blimps
of the day must prevail! Anyhow I feel that the following
may be of interest to researchers: "Kellyana" by Clive Turnbull,
Hawthorn Press,Melbourne,1943.A bibliography for the
period 1879-1943. And "The Dictionary of Australian Bushranging" by
Roy Mendham, Hawthorn Press, Melbourne,1975. C.H. Chomley's "The
Kelly Gang" first published in 1900 provides some
interesting comments too!
The
friendship that destroyed Ned Kelly
From: Nicky Cowie [nickycowie@today.com.au]
12 Nov 00
To the superstar/s who run
the iron outlaw site, Seriously, I love your site
and appreciate it's existence - thanks. Just a
line about your book reviews, i may have missed
it, but have you not read The friendship that
destroyed Ned Kelly by Ian Jones? It is an
excellent perspective on Aaaron Sherritt and Joe
Byrne and I believe an accurate account. It's worth
a mention. The other thing is - I agree his A
short life is a quality read, but I wonder
at your idea that, in writing this book, Ian has
achieved perfection?
I,
for one, would be utterly disappointed if no
other books were ever written about Ned, as you
imply - is now not necessary. (I hope no one
has been discouraged). Apart from the risk of
having no new researchers uncovering some little
but fascinating detail - I believe no account
can be truely definitive. Surely no author (or
editor) can be totally objective? As he or she
invariably puts his/her own perspective and biases
within the pages. With A Short Life Ian
has been no acception to this, in that he omits
stories about Ned's 'Quinn' temper and overall
it is certainly 'toned down'. I personally don't
think this side of him should be as his anger
gave him his amazing energy and determination,
i.e. it was a huge part of who he was and what
he did. It is impossible to read the book without
being positively affected in Ned's favour, which
from my biased point of view is good.
But
I think we should be careful not to paint him all
'white', he certainly didn't and we don't need to
- his flaws made him the man he was. In summary we
should aim for balance and the truth - it is what
Ned fought for afterall. I call for 100 more books
on the complexity that was Ned Kelly. Today I went
to the 'Old Melbourne Gaol' at 10:00am - it being
the 120 year anniversary of Ned's hanging. I went
as a kind of memorial to him, I thought many would
be there (for whatever reason) but sadly we totalled
only 4. The government do their best to ignore both
Ned and the government of the day's history in the
story - should we not remind them? Maybe I'll see
you there next year people? Yes
I agree, but Max Brown is still the author to beat
Dan
Kelly was my grandfather
From: Val
Downes [valdownes@nt-tech.com.au]
10 Nov 00
This is a long
story but to cut it short. We think our
Grandfather is Dan Kelly, because my
father told me so. We have tried to trace
Dads Mother father and anyone else we
know ,but to no avail. We even rang Janet
Reakes and gave her the info,but she
hasn't been able to find any records
either. He can't have been born under
a cabbage bush.Anybody out there have
any ideas. We have a lot more information,
if needed. How do you go about getting
dna tests from Ned and us or dad? You
need to fork out a hell of a lot of money
for DNA tests...
Peter
Careys new novel
From: Dominic W. Kelly [charter@dynamite.com.au]
01 Nov 00 (Part One)
It's always a pleasure
to visit your site and when reading about
one of my favourite subjects I always go
to your site first. Thank you for the work
you have put into this site. This leads
me to my question: What do you think of
Peter Carey's new novel. I'm a quarter
of the way through and I find it quite
disappointing. Although he gives a good
insight into the possible emotional side
of the events there seems to be quite a
few historical facts which have been misconstrued
or are simply false. I'd be very interested
in your view. I was also hoping to send
an email to Ian Jones. Do you know his
email address?
re:
Peter Careys new novel
From: Dominic W. Kelly [charter@dynamite.com.au]
01 Nov 00 (Part Two)
Thanks
for responding. I really appreciate it. Well if
you think the drag bit was hard to take then you'll
be angered by other things such as Ned's suggestive "obsession" with
his mother and that Ellen "seems to receive sums of
money from dubious sources" suggesting sexual favours
no doubt (and i'm only 1 quarter of the way through).
Maybe there's truth to his suggestions, but on such
a loose thread its disappointing the Carey chose this
area of Australian history to exploit his fanciful
ideas. These images are ones which stick in peoples
minds. For example, my father-in- law read the book
and then the next time he saw me he said "did Ned's
father wear women's clothing".
I
nearly choked. Ian Jones must be terribly disappointed.
When you think about how much research has gone into
his book and then an author like Carey turns the
whole event into a Hard Copy style novel (sensationalism
at its worst). One would think that Carey could have
based his novel on Ian Jones research and then added
the emotional background as only a good author can
do. Now that would be something worth reading. However,
the irony is that Peter Carey's book will most probably
out sell Ian Jones' masterpiece. Because I've enjoyed
his previous novels, I will finish reading this book,
simply for the reason that I can be in a position
to critique it more thoroughly. However, I will read
it with the (maybe naive) hope that it will improve
and not tarnish the Ned Kelly Ian Jones has introduced
us to.
True
History of the Kelly Gang
From: Andrew Tiernan [andrew_tiernan@bigpond.com]
29 Oct 00
I have just finished
reading Peter Carey's new book True
History of the Kelly Gang and enjoyed
it. Though not entirely factually accurate,
it is more interested in describing Ned's
emotional state (as envisioned by Carey)
and for that reason alone sets it apart
from most Kelly books. I agree with what
you say about Ian Jones book and am keen
to read anything else he has written regarding
Ned. I am currently trying to get hold
of a copy of a book called "The Friedship
that destroyed Ned Kelly: Joe Byrne and
Aaron Sherritt". This was written by Jones
and first published in the early 1990's
(I think) but has since gone out of print.
Would anyone know where I could get a copy?
Fortunate
to have such a folk hero
From: Rolf Linnestad [R.Linnestad@bom.gov.au]
27 Oct 00
Imagine Australian
history without Ned Kelly! Villian or hero,
we are most fortunate to have such a folk
hero. Though I dare say without the armour,
which elevates him to mythological proportions,
his story would be less known. A fantastic
image and a great site too!
Dan
Kelly met my father in 1920
From: Darren Wallace [dswallace@microtech.com.au]
27 Sep 00
My farther claimed to
meet Dan Kelly as a boy in the 1920s in Tasmania, the
story is that his grand mother was a freind of the
Kellys and Dan never died at Glenrowan. I have also
herd the story from other family members. Yep,
he was probably hanging out with Elvis and Harold Holt
Everything
on the Kelly story
From: David Crawford [dcrawford@ozemail.com.au]
26 Oct 00
Well done on such a good
Web site, you must have almost everything on
the Kelly story. I remember reading in the story
of Ned Kelly a statement Ned made to Gaunson
his solicitor. He said ' all I want is a full
and fair trail, and a chance to make my side
heard....'If I get a full and fair trail, I don't
care how it goes' It seems to me he had nothing
to hide and was game to face whatever consequences
for any wrong actions. I believe it sad that
his wish was late in coming. Also I reckon the
authorities of Kelly's time had the belief that
with Ned Kelly's execution, his cause for speaking
out against them would also die with him.
For
a time that was true and it wasn't talked about openly.
The police must of been satisfied that he would be
forgotten and they hailed as heroes. However if there
is any truth in the accused's words and injustice
done to preform so called 'justice' then the accused
and convicted's story will survive to be told until
true justice is done. I don't see Ned guiltless for
his own actions but being biased and prejudiced against
him in executing the law, didn't make the police
of Ned's time any better the bushranger himself.
From
Mexico
From: Melisa Santos
[melisa_santos@hotmail.com]
23 Oct 00
Hi I'm Melisa, from
Mexico, and i want to ask you for a favour,
this is the thing, i need to know what kind
of food ned kelly used to eat, for example
his favorites desserts, drinks, if he liked
chocolate cake, vegetables, milk, cheese,
fruits and that's all. The information is
for a homework about important people in
Australian's history. He
was kind of an eat on the run sort of fellow
Dan
Kelly was my neighbour
From: Ken Swan [punkutz@gil.com.au]
23 Oct 00
Congrats on the site, it's a
credit to you. Concerning Dan Kelly, my family lived
in the Ipswich area from the time they arrived from
scotland in the early 1900's my grandfather,his brothers
and sisters all knew Dan Kelly and were quite convinced
it was he only one sister is still alive, she is now
80 but still remembers him well,my father also has
memories of this man as a child.on the death of my
grandmother a few years ago while packing up the house
i came across photos of Dan Kelly about 1935, they
are photos of quite an old man, but to me i can see
the Kellys in this man, anyway i would love to compare
these photos with young dan photos ala forensic computer
imaging.got any hints? I don't wish to release these
photos to just anyone, I approached 60 mins but no
one answered my e-mail, I can only assume they are
not interested, are you? Show
me the Dan!
What
the hell is happening to the Kelly Homestead?
From: Leighanne
Chitty [l_chitty@yahoo.com]
21 Oct 00
Gidday
there. Have been combing through every inch of your
site. Well done, and I love your additude! As a kid
I use to go to the Beveridge school, and played all
the time (when we didnt get caught) in the Kelly's
home. We knew the history to the house, but shit, we
were 5/6 years of age. I distintly remember that well,
but was unable to find it when I went back there for
a visit a few years ago... Bugga... Anyway, getting
back to the guts of the conversation, if the home is
under national trust, and it is the last remaining
oringinal icon of the family, why cant it be restored
by the national trust, with the help of many kelly
enthuisist (Im sure an advertisment in the Melbourne
paper, and a bit of publicity on a certain 7pm show
will attract attention), and convert the place into
a tourist attraction, charging admittion, that will
fund future maintance on the home?
Heck,
there is many possibilites to keep funds coming in
once the inital restoration is done. If the national
trust is in agreeance, why not look for a restumper,
chippy, roof tiler ect, that are all willing to render
there skills free of charge. Maybe even the materials
could be donated with a bit of publicity? Unfortantly,
Im not in a position to try to get this off the ground,
but YOU ARE... You are known for your site, and your
fluent history of the family will give you an upstanding
position to get this off the ground. Hell, just ring
channel 7 and see if they would be willing to put
the cause on there "tonight" show, and just see what
public reaction you get back? I hope you like the
idea, then again you may think Im a bloody nutter,
but I DO want to see the Beveridge home alive and
well for future generations.
Ned deserves
better
From: Maikal Annaley [fhref7@library.usyd.edu.au]
18 Oct 00
I
challenge Peter Carey to defend his personal
distortions of the man beneath the armour . I make
this challenge here as his website has been uncontactable
and i only have library access. Please feel free
to forward this on. I also challenge Andrew Reimer
to defend his failure to discern the double- crossed
ventriloquism of Carey's book which he attempts
to dignify by claiming it to be an "apologia pro vita sua". Ned, an Australian born and
bred, deserves better of those would judge him "in absentia" for
what he had within him. I have requested a right
of reply to Reimer's review in the S.M.H. Spectrum
of Saturday 14 October. All I've been given is
a try at a letter to the editor. Well that's
a damn lot more than Ned was given. And I'm going
to ask for a published apology. Ned deserves
it; Australia does too.
Whats
your opinion?
From: Chris McGuire [mcguirecat@bigpond.com]
14 Oct 00
Just
dropping you a line wanting your opinion on the lastest
Ned publication, True history of the Kelly Gang written
by Peter Carey published by university of Queensland
Press. Picked it up the other day to my surprise in my
local Kmart. Yes it is a good
book of FICTION
What
a site!
From: Petra Hewson [joe_black@iprimus.com.au]
9 Oct 00
What
a site good work. As a young person who chats on the
net alot and get asked lots of questions about Australia
and this site is what i recomend most of all to everyone
if you want to know about true Australians then then
get to know about ned. And i get all good replys people
understand why i love him so much when they check out
this site thanks guys keep it up.
I
was there in 1880
From: Donna Brasche [brascheclan@winnet.com.au]
05 Oct 00
I
totally agree with your comments about the book Ned
Kelly A Short Life i have read it, i couldnt
put it down i am an avid Ned fan i am a sponge
when it comes to information about Ned and the
family, another book i am reading currently is
titled Ned Kelly written by george farwell its
an old book however its a goody i have only had
the book a few days and have almost finnished it.
what do you think about the current hohar about
the armor and the theorys regarding the "survival" of
Dan and Steve? I was listening to ABC reginal radio
this morning it was interesting to say least!! There
are so many theorys surrounding the Kelly boys and
some of them are verging on the parapsycological. Its
not funny, which is another field that Iam very interested
in. anyway i have a feeling that i was around in the "Kelly"era,
as i feel i know somethings are not correct dont
ask me why but i just do. any way better go. Email
me if you want to. Spooky
Bill
Brysons book Downunder
From: Peter Murphy [peter_murphy86@hotmail.com]
30 Sep 00
Thanks
for your reply. One more question. I recently read Bill
Brysons book Downunder, in which he says that
at the Stringybark shootings, that the police troopers
were shot in the nuts and left to bleed to death. I haven't
heard that one before. Have you come across this story
before? Is there any evidence that it could have happened? Bill
Bryson is full of brown smelly stuff with the occasional
nut thrown in...
State
Library of Victoria
From: Chris Smith [chriss@vicnet.net.au]
29 Sep 00
Hello there. I am a staff member of the State Library
of Victoria, where Ned's armour was recently 'discovered'.
I took some digital images of the armour in a private
staff viewing, and was wondering if you would like
to have a copy of them for your site. They aren't
great photography, but the images are clear. Cheers,
Christopher Smith, Customer Services.
The
Baumgarten brothers
From: Richard Reid [richard.reid@dewrsb.gov.au]
26 Sep 00
Just
a short note to complement you on your site. I've maintained
an interest in Ned, as my great grandfather and his brother
were the Baumgarten brothers who were scapegoated by
the police at the time for being in possession of horses
stolen by Ned (despite Ned exonerating them in the Jerilderie
letter). It was an amazing coincidence for me some years
ago to meet, though my then girlfriend, a chap who shared
my interest in Kelly - more so. He was Michael Whitty
- my great grand-dad and his brother had been jailed
for receiving the horses stolen from Michael's direct
forebear, squatter James Whitty. Small world.
Married
at Glenrowan
From: Marilyn Reid [CROC5@bigpond.com]
22 Sep 00
WE WERE MARRIED AT GLENROWAN,
AT KATES COTTAGE MUSEUM AND WE WERE DRESSED IN
THE 1880 DRESSES, I MADE MY OWN DRESS AND WORE
A RIDING HAT LIKE THAT OF KATE KELLY. THE BOYS
WHERE DRESSED IN MOLE SKINS AND AKUBRA HATS AND
THEY LOOKED GREAT, IN FACT EVERYONE DID, IT WAS
A GREAT DAY AND THE PHOTOS ARE WONDERFUL. Stop
yelling and send us some photos
From
Florida, USA
From: Leland Tripp [tripp@gbso.net]
20 Sep 00
I loved reading about
your western "heros". Ned Kelly would have
fit in with ours. Very good site. Pete
Tripp Hawthorne, Florida USA. Your
guys would have ran screaming if they saw
Ned
10/10
From: Dave Farrugia [robcarm@bigpond.net.au]
18 Sep 00
Great website, 10/10, it will help
me out alot for my exams. Very well setup and it provides
heaps of info...
From
Scotland
From: Cannonmills School [cannonmillsgroup5@hotmail.com]
13 Sep 00
Hello from Scotland! We
are a group of boys studying AUSTRALIA this term. We
are interested in Ned Kelly and in particular, the
fact that one of his gang came from Leith. Leith is
Edinburgh's port. There is a pub there called Ned Kelly's.
People have told us that one of his gang was a Leither.
Also, there is a story that 2 men (in the late 19th/early
20th century)had been chased by police in Leith on
suspicion that they had been breaking into houses around
the port. One of them produced a gun and shot a cop
before they both fled. When they were eventually caught
the bloke with the gun shot himself. The other said
he wished that he had been killed too.He said that
he'd rather die than go back to where he had come from.
The story goes that these 2 men were part of the Kelly
Gang and had stowed away on a ship from Australia and
had made there way to Scotland. we cannot find anything
in print to verify these tales but everyone older than
us seems to know of the storys. We like your web-site
and think you may know. Australia is cool and Ned Kelly
is a great folk-hero. from Shawn, David, Darren, Stephen
and Robert (aged 13).
From
Great Britain
From: Andy Williams [andy-guy@africanus28.freeserve.co.uk]
03 Sep 00
G'day, I'm an aussie
who now lives in Blighty. Just wondering
if you know what firearms were carried
by the Kelly Gang at all - at Glenrowan?
I've read accounts that Ned had a colt
navy revolver and a colt repeating rifle,
Joe Byrne a shotgun, but did he and the
others have colts, Webleys? Can you help? Check
out our WEAPONS section
Such
Is Life
From: Melisende [melisende@hotmail.com]
02 Sep 00
Great website
dedictaed to such a loveable and yet
so controversial character. As he is
reputed to have said "Such Is Life"
Ned
Kellys skull
From: Chris Moore [moorecj1@hotmail.com]
31 Aug 00
I
just happened to run across an article in ABC news online
that told of plans to bury Ned Kelly's skull later this
year. Up until this point I've never heard of this man,
Kelly, and became intrigued with his life. First off,
let me tell you that I'm a film student in the U.S.,
and I'm always looking for screenplay ideas. Could you
tell me if the subject of Ned Kelly has been done to
death in the Australian film industry? Has Hollywood
ever done a version of this story? Would people oppose
another movie about Kelly, centered on Kelly rather than
the gang? Please let me know your opinion on having another
Ned Kelly movie--if you think it's a bad idea or if I
would be wasting my time, flat out tell me what you think,
I'd like to know before I start a 120pg. or so script.
The
Kelly Homestead
From: Cameron Lamond [clamond31@yahoo.com]
26 Aug 00
I went to look at
it again (The Kelly Homestead) today 26/8/2000.
I have seen (what remains) of the house
several times over many years. And despite
the so-called restoration works, which
seem to be one steel cable to support the
chimney at an alleged expense of $ 10,000
, nothing seems to have been done to RESTORE
the place. There have been some flood-lights
installed (they look non functional now)
and a cyclone fence encases the property.
These may serve to protect the building
but how the hell do they RESTORE it? Thats
right, they do not! On a cold wet day like
today was, you can hear your shoes slush
in the sodden ground and can almost see
the old house sink and rot into the bog
it is built on. I would have loved to have
seen some repair work done on the building,
but all that I observed which was new at
Beveridge were some road signs now pointing
the way to the house. They should read " The
Kelly House 1Km...drive quick...it may
be gone soon". Why not ask all contributors
to this site for a donation to go towards
restoration (or even purchase) of the property?
Put me down for $50 to start with.
Thankyou
for your Ned Kelly site
From: Sue Robinson [anatomy@bigpond.com]
16 Aug 00
Just a quick note to say
thankyou for your Ned Kelly site. My son who
is in year 5 has chosen Ned for his 3 minute
speech and we found your site to be superb for
the information he is gathering. Thanks again
for a superb site.
Ned
Kelly the love story?
From:
Adrien and Selena [sweetman@uq.net.au] 01
Aug 00
Is it possible, that
the tale of Ned Kelly and the Kelly Gang,
could be one of, if not the worlds greatest
love stories. Australians have been educated
and told by history that Ned and the gang
tried to derail the police train at Glenrowan
in order to take hostages in return for his
mothers freedom etc.... This, "by Neds
own words, is true". But is it also
very possible that Ned by his actions at
Glenrowan and if the plan had gone his way,
could then be with his sweetheart Kath Lloyd
and avoid persecution. History has it that
Katherine Lloyd saw Ned at Melbourne Gaol
before his execution. Legend has it a Priest
may have bound the two in matrimony during
the visit. Ned Kelly may have been a champion
horseman, and pretty fair fist fighter too.
But he was a young man, perhaps a young man
in love. Love is a pretty powerful tool.
Ned
Kelly the comedy?
From:
Heinz and Lyn Jablonski [heinzlyn@lisp.com.au] 22
Jul 00
With the centenary of federation coming up during
2001, our local armature theatrical group was
thinking about putting on a comedy based on Ned
Kelly. Does
anyone know of a musical comedy along this line?
Cheers dears and thanks.
A
dickhead called Alan Howe
From:
Nicky Cowie [nickycowie@today.com.au] 19
Jul 00
Well my blood is fired - yet another inaccuracy
is in print for all to believe and this one not
written for Australian readers but the rest of
the world! In Bill Bryson's new book 'Down Under'
(an otherwise entertaining, insightful read about
Australia) his explanation of our beloved icon
is almost sacrilegious! Refer to pages 171 to
176...and I quote - "The
story of Kelly is easily told. He was a murderous
thug who deserved to be hanged and was." -
it goes on and gets worse. He apparently has
been dramatically misinformed by his 'old friend'
Alan Howe (editor of the Sunday Herald-Sun).
Howe
told him - "For three years, Kelly and his gang
laid low, but in 1878 four policemen tracked them
here. Somehow Kelly and his men captured and disarmed
the policemen. Then they murdered three of them in
a slow and pretty horrible way...Shot them in the
balls and let them bleed to death. To maximize the
pain and indignity." Sigh - What can I say?
An aside - Has anyone noticed the pigeons no longer
defecate on Sir Redmond Barry's statue? It seems
someone has put long, painful looking spikes on his
head to stop them! I for one say they should be removed
and let the birds have their say! And just quietly,
I absolutely think Ned Kelly was a bit of a hunk!!!
A
brave man
From: Jack Brazel [bigboof88@hotmail.com] 09
Jul 00
When I heard about Ned I met him in Glenrowan when
I was 7 from then I had a interst in Kelly and I see
him as a brave man as none of you would ever stand
up to the police he was a simple man I would do anything
to see him would you and if I was his layer i would
not stop to save do not think as him as a murder think
as of him as a Australian.
How
it all happened...
From:
Jack Brazel (aged 11) [bigboof88@hotmail.com] 05
Jul 00
Here is a story for you. Forgive my spelling.
I hope you like it. If you want another
one tell me:
I was grew up
in Greata little did I know that I become the most
famous Australian outlaw in history it started like
this . I was found
guilty stealing horses I was put in jail for a few
months later I saved a boy from a fierce river
he awarded me with a sash it came one of my
most valuable things to me . I was in trouble again
with the law for helping a bushranger called Harry
Power I did a few for it nearly got death then I
got into trouble for giving a Chinese man a hard
time I was put in Pentrige . When I got out a
officer had paid a visit called constable Fistparct
. She was put in jail a very hefty sentence I WAS
FORCED OUTLAW I deloused war on richland orners we
did robbies on everything we did euroa bank held
up towns we did everything . They where so angry
they delaced the outlaw act shoot us on the spot
no questions asked . I was furious I robbed
banks they where furious When we where riding in
wombat ranges we saw a camp of police camping at
stringybark creek we obverse them for sometime Dan
herd that some police wrere coming in we all rode
in took h0old of the camp shot some them only one
left I forced him to sit on the log I poked him in
the ribs theey came in I said BAIL UP BAIL UP I AM
NED KELLY AND THIS IS MY GUN BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
. I went after a coppper but I did't get him. We
made our escape we held up Jeriderie it happen like
this. We knocked on the police station I said there's
a fight sombody will get hurt he ran into our hands
we cuffed them threw them in the cells we took hold
of the townand stole 5000 pounds from the bank of
NSW they put 300 pounds on our heads we wrere delaced
outlaws I was furious I WROTE A LETTER to the goverment
how I was mistreted I also wrote Edwared kelly a
forced outlaw . They wanted me badly they sent up
blacktrackers they wrere mean they nearly caught
me . Then things got bader Aron shrieet was a police
informeer we exucted him by joe brynne dan knocked
at the door anton wicks voice said i am lost help
me he opened the door they slugged him the police
gurds dived under the bed he therned to burn the
house down but he did't they made there way to our
metting place.Then to glenrowan we knew there was
a spicel polce train coming we took hold of the town
at the ann jones inn we let a teacher ago called
curnow then I herd dan say the bloody police train
has arivved that teacher slip on us we put on our
armour we attaced at the verandah I went ten meteres
away from the others at the rear then I was brought
down by a bloddy idot called Stelle I was captured and
I went on trial it was very unfair.I
had the fafthful words ewared Kelly you will be hanged
by the neck until dead and may god have mercy on
you a day before MY EXUCTION dan came
in digused as a woman i chaned cloths with him i
walke out of the jail i came back later and
to see him hang he said i supose it come to
this such is life when they pulled the lever i left
after that i gave up bushranging and became a human
rights officer to see that every one was fariley
treated i called myself john walker i never saw my
family again.
Schoolboy
recollections
From: Dr Denis Bourke [drdenis@malvern.hotkey.net.au] 05
Jul 00
A great site... I grew up in Benalla and recall as
a schoolboy standing in awe of the tall bearded figure
who was Jim Kelly who came into Benalla regularly prior
to his death in 1947. At about this time the local
newspaper funded a film on the Kellys which had Bob
Chitty the legendary footballer as Ned, surely more
appropriate than Mick Jagger !! I have a number of
books not mentioned in your list:
NED KELLY BUSHRANGER
by BRIAN CARROLL 1976 Lansdowne
THE KELLY GANG Edited by NANCY KEESING 1975 Ure Smith
NED A LEGEND by SUSANNE FERRIER 1984 William Collins
AUSTRALIAN SON by MAX BROWN 1948 Georgian House
Elijah
Upjohn
From: Pat and Mike Mahoney [mahone@wn.com.au] 02
Jul 00
Does anyone know anything about Elijah Upjohn who was
the hangman at Ned's death. Why was he gaol? What happened
to him after the hanging? Am interested for family
history purposes. Not
given a fair trial
From: Dorothy Upton [dodoe3179@yahoo.com.au] 02
Jul 00
I Have read and reread everything I can on Ned and
his gang. Why was he not given a fair trial. Barry
wouldn't let them change lawyers. He had a lawyer who
was only 27 and had sat for his matriculation 3 times,
no experience and this was to be one of the biggest
cases in history. The Crown were also given a
lot more money towards their case against Ned. He was
no murderer and bank robber. There were three oother
ned Kellys at the same time robbing banks. Took his
name. I think people have to get their facts right. |