Did
Dan and Steve Escape Glenrowan?
re:
Dan Kelly and Steve Hart
From: Lola Rowe nee Lloyd [lola@winnet.com.au] 25 Sep
02
Carlotta Mitoli, you ask the question, who identified
the two bodies of Dan Kelly and Steve Hart. They were
identified by Richard Hart, Steve's Father and Thomas
Peter Lloyd. A close first cousin of Dan's, later to
become the brother in law of Steve. I have witnessed
the death certificate and both these men have signed
the certificate.
Dan Kelly and Steve Hart
From: Carlotta Mitoli [gmitoli@hotmail] 21 Sep 02
As I have become very interested in the history of
the Kelly gang I have a question. Who identified the
two bodies as those of Dan Kelly and Steve Hart at
the Jones' Hotel after the fire at Glenrowan? I hope
you can help me on this.
The immortal Dan and Steve
From: Marian Matta [mandpmatta@yahoo.com.au] 20 Sep
02
None of us want our heroes to die but in this case,
they did. To anyone out there who even half believes
the tales of Dan and Steve escaping from Glenrowan,
let me say READ THE EVIDENCE!! There were no strangers
in the Glenrowan Inn and all the “prisoners” there
knew everyone else either directly or via other people.
They also knew the gang, one way or another. Constable
Dwyer saw the two boys' bodies after they were dead
(or near enough to it) but before they were burned
beyond recognition. There was no handy cellar for them
to duck into, there were no convenient strangers to
die in their place, there was a rough ring of police
around the inn, it was broad daylight, there was no
major conspiracy between police and locals to hide
the truth. Dan and Steve died - end of story.
The Terrible Truth
From: Bronwyn Jarman [bkke38@yahoo.com.au] 19 Sep 02
I would like to put forward the assumption that Ned,
Joe, Dan and Steve hope to have their souls judged
on the facts of the events surrounding their lives.
This being the case, why is it necessary for certain
individuals to continue perpetrating theories based
on pure myth? The result from these myths being accepted
in general as fact, is that the truth behind the Kelly
saga becomes even more convoluted. I am open to any
opinion that a person has regarding the history of
Ned and the boys, so long as that opinion is at the
very least based on the facts presented through countless
historical documents and records. Ned, Joe, Dan and
Steve are not a commodity to be conveniently repackaged
by souless individuals who believe they can jusitfy
their actions under the banner of “truth”.
Let our hearts be brave and face the terrible truth
over the beautiful lies.
“Burnt to a Cinder was
I?”
From: Noeleen Lloyd [noeleenlloyd@hotmail.com] 17 Sep
02
 It is not very often that I am rendered speechless.
Congratulations to Vince and Carolyn Allen — you
have achieved it. Upon reading the excerpts of this
novel I have become lost for words, and not in a positive
way. I am truly unable to understand if these and other
authors who proclaim "to know the truth" really
believe what they are writing. Taking away the emotional
connection and examining from a purely historical context,
I am astounded that this book passes even a cursory
glance. At least Carey's novel admits to to being fictional,
obscure though this reference is. I encourage all to
read and further their understanding of the story as
a whole, forming an educated and informed opinion.
However, I am well aware that our society lends itself
to the sensational and scandal and that unfortunately
this appears to be what “Joe Citizen” wants.
Ned and the boys story is not a “myth” (an
invented story), or “legend” (a non historical
or unverifiable story handed down from earlier times
and popularly accepted as historical), but a series
of events that can be historically and undisputedly
verified by the documents and records that have been
preserved. Note: I am taking my definitions from the
Macquarie Dictionary. What these authors do is comletely
ignore what is fact and pass fiction as a poor substitute.
“Burnt to a Cinder was
I?”
From: Lola Rowe nee Lloyd [lola@winnet.com.au] 14 Sep
02
Why do we have people like Vince and Carolyn Allen,
writing and publishing books that are such drivel?
There is always some poor unenlightened person that
believe these FICTIONAL STORIES. The story of Ned is
a rivetting and true story without embellishments.
Having a ROYAL COMMISSION on a particular matter makes
it truthful and INTERESTING. I suppose these people
want to make that extra money, but why not read a good
TRUTHFUL STORY? You hit the nail right on the head.
Money! Money! Money!
Dan Kelly lived
From: Fiona [starandgarter@xtra.co.nz] 14 Sep 02
I've tried passing on this hot tip to anyone who wants
to search the old shipping records but they didn't
want to know. The accepted "truth" is that
Dan's charred body was found in the remains of the
fire. It was not his. He ducked out the back when firing
started and made his way to Darwin where he jumped
on a ship and spent the next twenty years as a sailor.
I know this because one Christmas Eve early in the
nineteenth century he berthed on the west Coast in
New Zealand and went to visit a relative in Ingahua.
My mother-in-law was a little girl listening at the
door as he mother welcomed this impressive guest. She
was so shocked to know there were outlaws in the family
that she kept it a secret for another sixty years.
Dan did not die except in the myth. |
