Friom: Lisa [email@example.com] 01 May 13
President Edward Kelly definiately gets my vote! :D
From: Steve Jager [firstname.lastname@example.org] 25 Apr 13
It's great to see that there are people from all over World taking an interest in the Ned Kelly story so I thought I might share a newspaper article I recently came across that mentions how close Ned Kelly came to altering the political landscape of Australia.
Border Watch (Mount Gambier, SA : 1861 – 1954) Saturday 17 February 1945 (page 5)
NED KELLY PRESIDENT
After the Kelly Gang had been broken up, certain papers and documents were found which in dictated that Ned went close, to altering the whole political history of Victoria, it is stated that if Ned had succeeded in wrecking the police train he intended proclaiming north-eastern Victoria a republic, with Benalla the capital city and himself as first President. Only the fact that the train was running late put the knocker on the gang’s plans and hopes. Had the plan carried, it is certain large numbers would have flocked to the banner of the Kellys, for their sympathisers were legion throughout Australia.
And we still are! Keep up the great work IronOutlaw! Will do!
re. Melbourne Gaol
From: Sherallee Schubert [email@example.com] 20 Apr 13
Kylie Zahirski, Ned Kellys life is facinating. The more I reserch the subject the more I learn. Its awsome. I have been to many Ned Kelly sites and have loads of photos I can email to you. I can also send you info on places of interest and whats there and whats to see. If you are interested just let me know. But I warn you, once you are hooked on Ned you get obsesed! I am a true Ned Nut!
From: Jill Holloway [firstname.lastname@example.org] 20 Apr 13
Hello, my name is Jill Holloway and I am researching my niece's family tree. My niece Linda is a decendent from a Elmer line. In Linda's family tree she has Lily Eliza Elmer born 1874 she married a William F. Beel, they married 29/1/1896. I have read on line that between the Elmer's and the Beel's there is some connection to Ned Kelly the out law. I have read some article's online and it says there is a link between these surnames to Ned Kelly. I'm wondering if you know the link and if you can forward it on to me. Linda's grand father is Francis Sydney Elmer, his father is Francis Laurel Elmer, and his father is Sydney Moses Laurel Elmer, I have done a lot of work for her, and would love to tell her there is a link to Ned Kelly. If you can, can you send me some work to show the link if there is one. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Ned and another Wayang Kelly
From: Mike Burns [email@example.com] 14 Apr 13
Hi there crew. I've had a project going for over twenty years doing a shadow puppet performance of aspects of Ned's story, using puppets based on Javanese shadow puppet technique. One youtube episode is youtube.com/watch?v=My0wmaSUuKQ and the others can be sought from its sidebar. I'm mounting a new performance for the Fremantle Heritage Festival in May, and was researching Isaiah "Wild" Wright, when I came upon your fabulous webpage - brilliant. The new show "Ned Kelly meets Arjuna" is under construction at the moment, and the meeting between Java and Australia happens in three episodes: first, in the opening scene, a wandering Javanese clown (Semar) meets Wild Wright, who recognises Fremantle, claiming he'd passed through it once in his Kimberley days, offers to introduce Semar to the local gods and heroes so he can get about his work, and thus meets the Wandjina spirit and Ned, allowing our story to start in real time; halfway through the show the Kelly Gang meet the Pandawa brothers, heroes of the Mahabharata, who, like the Kelly Gang, have been exiled to live in the forest, and in sharing one another's stories. become better acquainted and form alliances; finally, despite Padawa aid, Ned is hung, but in ascending to legendary status, meets his old friends and the Wandjina, who also mentions the Northern Aboriginal dreamings about Ned, Captain Cook and Bima, who seems to occupy a good deal of the northern Indonesian-Australian sea. Along the way, many songs, fights and yarns. I'm hoping I can use some of your jpeg images for projection via data projector during the show, but can't download them as yet. I can't offer you anything but acknowledgement - we have no budget, but any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work. Good luck and keep us posted!
From: Kylie Zahirski [firstname.lastname@example.org] 12 Apr 13
Hi there i went to melbourne gaol in april and i am so interested in ned kellys life now i have brought books looked up ned kelly on the internet it is so interesting to know what his life was like if theres any info drawing or anything that u could email me about that would be great as im am so interested and my kids are very interested in it as well .... i would say to anyone that knows a bit about ned kelly and wants to know more it is worth going to the gaol it is so good that i am going back there and taking my partner. i am in adelaide but its worth another look.
Annie Margret Kelly
From: Hamish Catto [email@example.com] 09 Apr 13
Hi. I was wondering if you could tell me more about myself. John Ryan married Annie Margret Kelly. What does this make me? Annie’s parents were Alice mee o meara and Daniel Kelly. Thanks.
re. Police Harassment
From: Lisa [firstname.lastname@example.org] 29 Mar 13
Ugh! That scumbag Hare is one of the police I HATE the most, because of that very thing.
From: Paul O'Keefe [email@example.com] 23 Mar 13
It's quite well known of the disgraceful police harassment and treatment that the Kelly family (defenseless women and children) and their friends suffered under the Victorian Colonial Police forces hunt for the Kelly Gang . What is less well known is the extent the police went to, even poisoning many of their family pets. I was doing some research of late, when I came across Superintendent Hare\'s testimony at the Royal Commission that was held in March 1881. I thought I would share this with your readers. Hare questioned at the Royal Commission:
Q1369 When Senior-Constable Mays reported to you, you came to the conclusion that he had acted wisely, as the outlaws had cleared out?— Yes; and I may say that sympathizer dogs and the dogs of the relations were a great nuisance to us. The next time I went to this spot, I appointed a man with a few baits and a bag, and told him to drop a bait here and there, and let any animal that liked pick it up.
Q1370 Baits to destroy dogs? — Yes.
From: Christine Potter [firstname.lastname@example.org] 19 Mar 13
Hi, I am one of the many great, great children of William Williamson. Firstly I would like correct a misprint that William Williamson was not related to the Kelly Family he was first a border at the Kelly place and later their neighbour. I am attempting to trace William’s life in the Greta district of Victoria. Whilst I have gathered a fair amount of information I would be grateful for any material you have on William and Fitzpatrick incident that lead to him being sent to prison for 6 years and serving four of the six year. Thanks in advance for you assistance in this matter.
Dan and Steve
From: Geoff McGee [email@example.com] 02 Mar 13
Figure this out someone. Father Gibney views Dan and Steve laid out head to foot and expects their bodies,unmarked, to be hauled out of the burning inn. Const. Dwyer (who put the boot into Ned) states to the commission that Steve and Dan were 6 metres apart (in different rooms?) With bullet wounds supposedly by police action. Dwyer viewed the bodies but did not have time to pull them out OR did Dwyer lie to the Commission seeking the reward for the Police? How can there be such disparity between two witnesses? Who do you believe?
Bravo! Ned Kelly
From: Dave Linehan [firstname.lastname@example.org] 15 Feb 13
I am also of Irish descent and my ancestors were starved out of County Cork by the British and fled to the US. Little did I know that America never gained it\'s independence and has been ruled over since it's inception by the Freemason banker's headquartered in the City of London to this day. I was a university professor and finally decided to leave the Nazi US ten years ago after being framed by the corrupt police and government for "killing" a m an who committed suicide after leaving a suicide note with the Miami Coroner's Office blaming his own attorney for selling him out. Facts do not matter when money and power are at stake in the US. I come from a family of coward degenerates and have thought many times of changing my name. I do not deserve the name "Ned Kelly" but would like to change my name to his in honour of his legacy. I have fought back in every way possible, within the "law", to clear my name and regain the money that the US government stole from me to no avail. Maybe I too will become a dead martyr. It's better to die standing than to live on your knees. Would the Kelly family object to my request to use the name "Ned Kelly"? ...Umm...
From: Adriana Gaspar [email@example.com] 28 Jan 13
Hi there! I would like to know if Ned Kelly remains were buried with his green sash? Thank you. No
Relate to the Kelly Gang
From: Patricia Rogers [firstname.lastname@example.org] 24 Jan 13
I wish to found out were i can the own book about the kelly gang please. Jump to our books section
re: Another Skull Story
From: Sherallee Schubert [email@example.com] 24 Jan 13
As Ellen says, part of Neds scull has been burried with him. That to me makes it all the more a mistery as to what has happened to his scull. Why would such a large piece be missing from it and so it is not complete? If it was used for a 'paper weight' why would it have been incomplete? If a study of his brain was done, I wonder if they really made a mess of his scull and therefor maybe parts of it were souveinered. On the show called 'Neds Head' they said that there were saw marks at the back of the neck vertibrae to indicate that they cut into the back of his scull. This I would have imagined would have made a mess of it. So that means that his scull would not have been kept intact at all. His jaw bone would not have been damaged when extracting the brain. What then has happened to that? If anyt hing was found it would be in pieces I would think and not as one. If the remains of his scull had been burried with him at the OMG, then another thought I had was maybe when Ned was re-burried at Pentridge, did the parts get mixed up as 'scrap bones' and just burried slap hazard like? Maybe mixed up with other prisoners? But when his head was used to make the death mask, was it still attached to his body? Or was it removed? Is that how it went missing if it were removed? The questions can go on for ages! I just want to see Ned complete thats all. So he can truely RIP and not in 'pieces'. God Bless you Neddy. Skull...
re: Another Skull Story
From: Ellen Hollow [firstname.lastname@example.org] 23 Jan 13
I can assure you VIFM did double check on all skulls presented. I can also assure you the Melbourne University also did two audits on the skulls in their custody, one early in the investigation and a second late last year when their was a suggestion that the Kelly skull was in their posession. The NZ skull was obviously not Ned's skull. Photograpic evidence dismissed it. Ned's has a fairly large piece from the base of the neck to cheek missing which was buried with him. I can varify this as I was witness, and have photographic evidence, to the transfer of custody of the remains. It's the unpresented skull I'm interested in uncovering, namely the one Sir Colin Mackenzie took up with him to Canberra...
For Dear Ned
From: Lisa [email@example.com] 20 Jan 01
On this very special day Ned has been returned to his beloved Kelly Country. His family have looked after him and have made such beautiful arrangements for his return home. He will be riding throughout the Strathbogies tonight. Rest In Peace dear brave Ned, you are loved and remembered always. :) Well said Lisa...
From: Sherallee Schubert [firstname.lastname@example.org] 19 Jan 13
At Last our dear Ned is at rest. Now we can only hope his scull is found to make him complete. I would love to have been at the funeral as I bet thousands of Ned lovers would, but glad to hear that the family gave him what Ned so badly wanted. Ned would be smiling from up above, really smiling. All Neds family and sympathisers must be so pleased that the mistery has been soved of where Neds reamains were and it was something I would never have thought would have happened ever. I was convinced that Ned would never be found. Let the 18th of Jan 2013 be a day of great importance, just as Nov 11 is, rememberance day for the Diggers and yes Ned as well! Skull...
re: Another Skull Story
From: Mick Fitzsimons [email@example.com] 19 Jan 13
G’day Stinger, that’s a question that I have wondered about as to whether the VIPM did any checking on that skull in NZ. My guess too is that she’s a Nutbag, but you never know. All roads lead to Melbourne University...
Rememberance Day and Ned Kelly
From: Dave Miller [firstname.lastname@example.org] 18 Jan 13
I was wondering if people realised the coincidence between Ned Kelly execution in Victoria and remembrance day. We all know Ned was executed on the 11th day of the 11th month in 1880. And we know this happened at 10:00am. We also know there was no such thing as daylight savings then. So what this means is we remember his death and give 2 minutes silence at 11th of November at 10:00am est. or 11am dst. REMBERANCE DAY. As i said 11:00am dst is the same as 10:00 est ... that is the time he died. Has anyone realised that the anniversary of Ned’s execution is the same time we celebrate remembrance day. I like to remember Ned at this time ... and i am so pleased Ned is being laid to rest with his mother. I have been a fan of Ned’s since i was 7 years old. I was in the cubs living in Victoria and there was a competition amongst all the districts in Victoria ... all the cubs were involved. We had to wear a costume relating to the Kelly era. My father worked in a cardboard factory and so made an armour out of cardboard, painted it black ... my armour looked like Ned’s. When the competition was held i came second out of all the cubs in Victoria. I was so proud won a book on Ned Kelly, sadly i don’t have that book anymore, but since then my hero has been Ned. When i was in year 10 at the north sunshine technical school, i had to make something to do with Ned Kelly in geography, i am not sure what Ned had to do with geography, but i received top marks by the teacher and he asked how i came up with the idea of making Ned’s armour out of cardboard and black shoe polish, so i told him about being in the cubs. And to make it so much sweeter, my fiancé the woman i am going to marry is descendant of Irish ... her family name is Egan. Well that’s just a little i thought people would find of interest and remember Ned Kelly on remembrance day every year along with the fallen diggers.
Another Skull Story
From: Stinger Nettleton [email@example.com] 18 Jan 13
On this, the day of his funeral in Wangaratta, I venture to again raise the issue of Ned Kelly’s Skull. On Monday, August 27, 2012, an article appeared on page 3 of the West Australian newspaper from its Wellington correspondent, headlined “Woman claims she has ‘Ned’s head’. Apparently a Ms Anna Hoffman, 74, a NZ resident of some notoriety, claims to have been given the skull by a security guard in Melbourne in 1980 and still has it in her possession. “I have treated it with respect, I haven’t lit candles in it or drunk red wine out of it or anything bohemian like that” she pleads. The article also alleges that this “discovery has raised the interest of the Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine, which matched Kelly’s remains to the DNA of a surviving relative”. It doesn’t reveal whether that interest has led to any further investigation –let alone testing - of the ‘Hoffman skull’. Anything further on this known to iron-outlaw? Or just another “nut-bag” job? RIP EK My money is on the nut-bag...
From: Richard Kostraby [firstname.lastname@example.org] 18 Jan 13
How beautiful Ned will be buried next or near his family and beloved mother, what a journey it has been for the Kelly family who were bullied and picked on all the time. Would be honored to be at the funeral but i wish the family peace and closure, RIP Ned Kelly.
Gripe about Kelly artifacts
From: Sherallee Schubert [email@example.com] 16 Jan 13
Firstly Brad I am sad to hear Joe's grave has been vandalised in the past. I didnt know that. Now, I am going to have a gripe about Ned artifacts. I read somewhere about Neds target tree being found at Bullock creek. It was only part of the tree laying on the ground. I dont know when it was found but I think it was quite a few years ago but where is it now? If it is the tree then it would have been in the location of Dans Hut which I believe no one knows where it was for sure. Also, where is the trinkets that where found at the dig site at Glenrowan? Are they being kept until they build the new Kelly information centre? I heard they were thinking about building it on the Anne Jones site! God forbid if they do that, that is sacred! Build a replica of Anne Jones Inn or a ficsard but not for the public to tramp through, just keep it as the railway station is, not to be accessable. I am still annoyed that Joes armour can be in private hands and is hidden away from the world. Thats not fair! And another question remains, there were suppose to be redundant pieces of armour found in caves at beecworth. Where are they now? Have I griped enough? When they were stupid enough to lose Neds rifle that it was it for me! The Kelly hut site at Greta ... I could go on and on...
Ned is going home
From: Lisa [firstname.lastname@example.org] 16 Jan 13
Wow! This is brilliant news for dear Ned. A huge thank you to the Kelly family for making Ned's wish come true. I hope everything goes perfectly for Ned and his family this weekend. We will be thinking of him. Rest In Peace dear brave Ned. You are loved and remembered forever.
re. The paupers call me 'Your Majesty' but I'll settle for sir! Thanks...
From: Sherallee Schubert [email@example.com] 14 Jan 13
Dam Gremlins! I will try to post this again! In anwer to Brian Quinn, do you mean the police camp or the Kelly camp at Bullock creek? The police camp has been found or Ian Jones and his cronies are pretty sure they have found the place. Going by the descriptions of the photos and the statements made by Constable McKintire. When you go to Stringybark creek there is a well made track to the site and a bourd with description of what happened and photos. The site has been heavily mined and logged and and has suffered bushfires since 1878. The soil is all that is left of what was there when Ned trod his larrikin boots on it! And even that has been dug great big holes. But it is amazing to visit and yo can almost see Ned and the boys hiding in the trees. Dont forget 3 coppers died here though so a little respect would not go astray.
P.S. Ned's Burial
I forgot to mention this before but does anyone know if Ned has been layed to rest yet? I know its none of our busness but I cant help but want to know where he will be burried. I wish he could be burried where he wanted with his family at Greta, surely a vandal proof grave could be made for him so us Kelly lovers can pay our respects. Joes grave is not vandalised. If anything it is probably the most visited grave from people not even related to him and the most decorated grave in over the longest period of time ever! After all this time in not knowing where the most famous Australian bush ranger remains have been and now he has been found I would hate him to be 'hidden away'. My guess is that he will be burried at the old Kelly property at 11 mile creek. Thats where Annie is burried so they say. Unfortunately, Joe's grave has been vandalised in the past...
From: Sherallee Schubert [firstname.lastname@example.org] 08 Jan 13
I have posted stuff on here and am still waiting to see them so Brad, wake up! Have you been on holiday? Want to ask anyone if they can tell me is Arron Sherrits grave in the cemetary easy to find? I have the plot number but dont know if its visable. Also, is the site of his hut sign posted as well as the Byrnes hut site and Anton Wicks? Are the police caves easy to find and can they be accessed? Anyone got any pics would be great if you could put them on here. Thanks. Last email I got from you was dated 7th April 2012 so it looks like the gremlins may have stolen your other posts!
Scanlon and Lonigan
From: Alan Crichton [email@example.com] 01 Jan 13
G'day Mr Webb, sorry i ain't writ for a while but i's been busy with stuff. When Ned took the blame for killing those three troopers up in the Wombat, i believe he was telling the truth;he did. When Doc Reynolds examined both Lonigan and Scanlon, he discovered that they each had four bullet wounds. When my ol mate Mac writes in his narrative that he had possession of quartered bullets, i thought he was just talking about Lonigan, but when i had another read of his little story, he tells us that he had several quartered bullets taken from both Lonigan and Scanlon. I've always thought that Scanlon was deliverd the same fate as Lonigan, and that was from a single shot loaded with a quartered bullet and fired from the same weapon. Lonigan was shot from a distance of 40 yards and his wounds could have on ly been inflicted whilst facing Ned Kelly and not running away from him, looking over his shoulder or not, as Mac assumed. Scanlon was shot from a distance of 30 yards according to Mac, on his knees and scrambling to take control of the Spencer. From where Ned Kelly was now positioned at the crossed logs, the positioning of Scanlon's wounds, and not forgetting that Mac saw a large spot of blood appear when Scanlon was shot under the right arm simultaneously with hearing a shot fired by Ned Kelly, i believe it was Ned and no others who delivered the fatal shots to all three troopers. There has been speculation that Ned was taking the blame himself to shield the others, but from what i can see, he was simply telling the truth.